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    Alternate Process Exposure Light Source

    I have been thinking of printing cyanotypes, van dyke brown, etc. With that in mind, I have been looking for a low cost exposure light. I ran across this set of instructions for building a DIY version:

    http://www.thinktink.com/stack/volum...amp/uvlamp.htm

    I'm thinking that it should fit the bill for up to 8x10 inch prints.

    Note: I am not associated with the company that hosts this link. I just thought it may be interesting to others here.

    Jon

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    Re: Alternate Process Exposure Light Source

    Jon, below is a post by Sandy King about a recent experiment he did with a cheap light source. Might be something to think about.
    regards
    Erik


    OK, you folks who already have your 1000 watt NuArc platemakers up and running
    will not be interested in this relatively cheap source of UV radiation, a
    Fluker's Sun Spot, a 160 Watt self ballasted mercury vapor bulb that puts out a
    lot of UVA and UVB to keep those pet reptiles comfortable.
    >
    > I happened to try out this bulb in an effort to find a inexpensive light
    source for a workshop student from Malyasia who is scheduled to be here next
    week. I was looking at some of the large(440 watt) self-ballasted mercury vapor
    lamps but when I looked at the SPD chart on several of these bulbs I realized
    that most of them have a filter that cuts out most of the UV radiation, making
    them very inefficient at printing carbon. I confirmed that fact that these bulbs
    are relatively inefficient in an email exchange with a carbon printer who told
    me that his exposure times with the 440 watt bulb were over an hour. This is
    actually longer than my exposure times with a 175 watt street light type of
    mercury vapor bulb, which has no coating.
    >
    > OK, I started to look around and found this Fluker's Sun Spot that is
    advertised to put out a lot of UVB and decided to give it a try. I put it in a
    housing this evening, sensitized a sheet of tissue, and when dry I exposed the
    tissue for sixty minutes at a distance of about sixteen inches from the base of
    the bulb to the printing frame to a 21 step Stouffer T45 step wedge. Guess what?
    I got a maximum black at Step 3, indicating that exposure was one full stop
    over, so that the tissue would have been fully exposed in thirty minutes. Folks,
    that is not half bad for a $40 bulb that at sixteen inches would provide plenty
    of even light for an 8X10 print, maybe even a 11X14". And the bulb is rated for
    5000 hours of use.
    >
    > Thought this might be of some interest to some of you. So there you are,
    expose your carbon prints and keep your bearded dragons, iguanas, snakes and pet
    turtles nice and cozy with the same bulb.
    >
    > Sandy
    >

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    Re: Alternate Process Exposure Light Source

    The sun is free for all

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    Re: Alternate Process Exposure Light Source

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Larsen View Post
    Jon, below is a post by Sandy King about a recent experiment he did with a cheap light source. Might be something to think about.
    regards
    Erik
    Erik,

    Thanks for the tip. This is very affordable! I will look into this, and try it out.

    Jon

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    Re: Alternate Process Exposure Light Source

    Quote Originally Posted by csant View Post
    The sun is free for all
    Yes, but it does not work at night!

    Jon

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    Re: Alternate Process Exposure Light Source

    Quote Originally Posted by jon.oman View Post
    Yes, but it does not work at night!

    Jon
    The UV radiation from the sun also varies a lot depending on the time of day and atmospheric conditions so it is hard to get consistent results. I would not recommend the sun as a light source for alternative printing for most of the US. However, if you happen to live in one of the arid states of the southwest or west that get a lot of sun it would be a reasonable source of UV. However, even in this case for consistency you should limit your printing sessions from about 10am - 4 pm.

    Although I know of an exception or two virtually every serious alternative printer I know owns and uses an artificial light source. And given the cost of some of the chemistry, platinum for example, consistency can be a really big deal.

    That said, it can be really fun to print with the sun with processes like salted paper and albumen, and very hard to beat the results since these processes really love more UV than many artificial sources can provide.

    Sandy King
    http://www.sandykingphotography.com/
    For discussion and information about carbon transfer printing the carbon group at Yahoo.
    http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/CarbronTransfer/

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    Re: Alternate Process Exposure Light Source

    I didn't like using the sun because of all the variables involved. I have minimal handyman tools but even I was able to build a simple light box open at the long sides using plywood from Home Depot and some under-the-counter fluorescent light fixtures. There was something a little tricky about wiring the fixtures IIRC but otherwise it was simple if you have a hammer, power saw, and some nails. Then you have to get the right lights, there was some fairly big deal about them that I no longer remember but they weren't just plain old fluorescents, I think I had to order them. I'm sure Sandy or many others here know the kind of lights you'd need. I was doing mostly van dyke brown and gum printing.
    Brian Ellis
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    a mile away and you'll have their shoes.

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    Re: Alternate Process Exposure Light Source

    I knocked this together in an afternoon using a 'safe' type of sterilising lamp. A POP paper under a tough negative cooks in ten minutes, my argyrotypes in 20 minutes.

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    Re: Alternate Process Exposure Light Source

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Broadbent View Post
    I knocked this together in an afternoon using a 'safe' type of sterilising lamp. A POP paper under a tough negative cooks in ten minutes, my argyrotypes in 20 minutes.

    Chris,
    It looks very nice, but I am surprised it gives even light, because I always thought of making one and belied that the lamps had to be very close to each other, with very little gap. Do you know what the bulbs are and where can in the UK could one get the Fluker's Sun Spot or equivalent please?
    best of luck
    Gerry

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    Re: Alternate Process Exposure Light Source

    Quote Originally Posted by MR CORONET View Post
    ...Do you know what the bulbs are ...
    Let you know monday pm. They are as tight as the ballast allows and seem even enough.

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