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Thread: Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    The stiff corner of a field camera lens board and the front element of an adjacentlens are not a good combination when a flimsy lens cap is in place. The Nikon LF lens caps are adequate for their protection. The Japanese engineers pay attention to little, but vital details like that.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    :You can help the manufacturer better by listening to customers instead of whitewashing their mistakes.:

    Listen to whom if no one compalins to us?

    We always pass on comments from dealers and users where there are problems.

    So far, 12 years, no connsumer, no dealer, has had a complaint about the caps or had a problem caused by the caps.

    Now because the factory has agreed to make good on one consumer's complaint that a USED lens had a problem they should change everything?

    Again, 12 years. 1000's of lenses. Noone has reported a problem.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    "I had a damage of a back element and Kerry had also some troubles with his front element"

    Then it is strange neither of you contacted us directly.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    "So Bob it was not 0 it was 1 dad you had just to remember your brain! But I know all good salesman are always forgott the problems they just want sales! But its OK Bob its your job! "

    The one, and only, time this question arose was with your used lens Armin.

    No one else has reported tis.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    "I hope its not TOO wide for my TOYO Field 45AII, which is supposed to have the Schneider 58XL as the widest limit of usable lenses." Andre, I have been using the 55mm Grandagon on my Toyo 45AII for 18 months and it is quite usable. I believe that Toyo states that the 45AII can take lenses as short as 47mm, which looks true to me. Be prepared to drop the bed, back tilt and rise the front standard, this takes less than 20 seconds. An other detail : whith dropped bed the revolving back does not rotate properly anymore. In order to rotate the back 90? you have either to tilt it back rearward or to force it into position which scratches the paint of the bed (and is what I do 80% of the time). By the way I second all the good opinions about this lens.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    Armin and jean-Marie, thanks for the tip on TOYO/Rodenstock 55mm compatibility.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    Julio,

    "My cap for a 60mm ID fitting weighs exactly 4.70 grams"

    The one we just weighed, 60mm I.D. Rodenstock cap, weighs 5.6699046 g.

    In fact we weighed 3 of them. 1 with the older logo and 2 from new items in stock with the newer logo on the cap. All weighed the same on an electronic postage scale.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    To get back on topic:

    If someone has used both the R 55 and the S 58, can you comment on the brightness of the f4.5 vs. f5.6 on the ground-glass?

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    What's up with all these people having gram scales????

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    You guys are kidding, right. I have a scuff mark on the front element of one of my Rodenstocks and could never figure out how it got there! Now it makes sense.

    Why has Rodenstock not mentioned this or warned the consumer that an expensive piece of glass could be damaged by a lens cap that is less than stellar.

    Frank H.

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