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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    Andre:

    Photomark in Phoenix has (had) a 55mm Apo-Grandagon in their rental fleet.

    I rented it twice, then bought one based on excellent results.

    Glenn

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    I have likewise rented Photomark's 55mm Grandagon and found it to be a superb lens ... haven't yet purchased one, though, as the money always seems to find another outlet besides photography.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    Andre, I cannot speak from experience with regards to the 58XL from Schnieder bu t I have been using Rodenstock's 55 Apo Grandagon for sometime. Initially on 6x9 cm and more recently on 5x4. Unfortunately it provides little room for lens shif t on this format but its such a sharp lens right to the edge even on 5x4.

    This is purely subjective but I find that a lot of my images taken with this len s seem to have an almost fluidness about them, a kind of 3D feel. Imotive I know but it's something I cannot fully explain.

    Good luck with your choice.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    Thank you all for the input. My intuition was telling me to consider the Rodenstock Grangagon 55mm, and based on your threads I'll take that hunch and go with it, (albeit possibly considering custom made lens caps from Grimes as a required accessory). I hope its not TOO wide for my TOYO Field 45AII, which is supposed to have the Schneider 58XL as the widest limit of usable lenses.

    Aside: I'm too impulsive to test rental lenses as was suggested, but I know some of you aren't so thank you for the fruits of your labor. When time comes, hopefully in next year, I'll order the 55mm from RW, and keep it if it meets performance expectations. I'm looking forward to it.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    "If you truly want to end all worries buy a set of custom Novoflex metal caps. but you would be the first to do so."

    If this is true Bob I'd like to meet the Dunderhead at Novoflex who insists on marketing lenscaps that no one has ever purchased!

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    Andre be advised that if you buy from Robert White you will not receive the wonderful Lifetime Warranty on the Rodenstock lens that is only available from Rodenstock's Autorized Distributor in the U.S.A., yadda yadda yadda... oh nevermind.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    "marketing lenscaps that no one has ever purchased"

    Sorry Wayne.

    they are made from aluminum,on a custom order basis, for very long Canon and Nikon lenses .

    Since I forgot you were here I should have added, never ordered one for large format lenses.

    But if you wish they can. Rather expensive though for a non- existant problem.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    Bob, a rare NOT non existent problem, surely??

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    "a rare NOT non existent problem"

    No. Non-existant.

    In 12 years distributing Rodenstock 1000's of new lenses. Not one lens reported to us with this problem.

    Again.

    The person with this problem had purchased a lens that was NOT new.

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    Schneider 58XL vs. Rodenstock Apo Grandagon 55?

    In marketing, perception is reality, yes Bob. You have heard from others now read my comment. The dammed Rodenstock caps are flimsy, cheaply made. My cap for a 60mm ID fitting weighs exactly 4.70 grams. Adding another 2.5 grams of plastic would make the cap's convex surface much more sturdy. The extra cost of another 3 grams of plastic at about $2.00 per pound for the resin would add to 1.3 cents additional material cost per cap. Even at the generous mark ups of this industry, that would probably translate to 8 cents more per cap/lens. OK, Bob, tell Rodenstock marketers to make a decent cap, and add the 8 cents to the selling price of each lens and stop making a reputable optical manufacturer look cheap and greedy. You can help the manufacturer better by listening to customers instead of whitewashing their mistakes. For your info, a Schneider 58mm ID lens cap weighs 7.06 grams and is much sturdier. You do not have to rely on Novoflex specially ordered caps, get Schneiders.

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