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    Re: What's in your 4x5 Lens kit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Tarbert View Post
    Hi all. From widest to longest here goes 58 super angulonf5.6,90 super angulon f8, 135w nikkor f5.6 , 150f6.3 fujinon , 300c f8.5 fujinon , 450 f9 nikkor .
    The only blank spots i see are maybe a 75 & a 210 or 240 type range . Cheers Gary
    Hi , I have been busy changing my lens kit to allow for my recent purchase of a Chamonix 5x8 , My new kit is as follows:
    For 5x4 only 58 Super angulonf5.6, 75mm super angulonf5.6 90mmnikkor f8, 135 Nikkor 5.6,150 Fujinon 6.3
    For both formats 120mm Nikkor f8 ,180 Symmer S F5.6 ,240 f9 Fujinon 300c Fujinon&Nikkor 450m f9,
    Most lenses were chosen on a weight versus coverage criteria, except for for the 180 symmer which was a direct swap for my old 240 Symmer S.(already decided was going on original post)
    and the 135 Nikkor which was just at the right price so i grabbed it.
    This is it for me , the kit is complete , So you will not see my name in WTB section only in the image sharing and advice areas Cheers Gary

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    Re: What's in your 4x5 Lens kit?

    Fascinating.... I make that:

    47mm = 7 lenses
    55/58mm = 7
    65mm = 21
    72/75mm = 30
    90mm = 76
    100 to 115mm = 18
    120/125mm = 40
    135mm = 48
    150mm = 58
    162/165 = 7
    180mm = 30
    200 to 215mm = 75
    240 to 270mm = 44
    300/305mm = 47
    355/360mm = 14
    400 to 500mm = 30
    over 500mm = 8

    so the commonest focal lengths are 90, 150 and 210mm
    after that there's a spread of moderate wide angles from 120 to 135mm and a similar number of longer lenses out to about the 300mm mark

    I think it's a shame the 180mm doesn't seem well represented because I'm very partial to 180 on 4x5

    you can tell I was getting a bit bored today, but it'll be interesting to see if a similar spread of focal lengths comes from the thread about what people actually use as opposed to what they own:
    http://www.largeformatphotography.in...ad.php?t=81567

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    Re: What's in your 4x5 Lens kit?

    I'm new in LF so just getting started.

    I use a 150mm in a Copal 0 and a Wollensak mounted 280mm (ish) no name meniscus from Mr. Galli.

    I use both lenses in a general purpose way (portraits, still life). My next lens will be wide, like maybe a 58mm or 65mm.

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    Re: What's in your 4x5 Lens kit?

    I suspect that most people buy a camera with a 150mm lens as their first lens, without too much thought or on a dealer's recommendation, or because it was in the kit they bought secondhand, and then it doesn't make much sense to go to 180mm and 135mm (which are my favourites) because that's quite close to something they already have. A bit of a pity.

    On a different line, away from this "I have an X a Y and a Z" (but still relevant to this thread), I recently bought a G-Claron 210mm lens on the *bay last week and it arrived with a +1 close-up lens attached. Obviously the dealer didn't notice. No problem. But that was presumably how the previous guy was using the lens: as a convertible lens, 210mm without the +1 and about 150mm with the +1. Of course infinity focus is perfectly possible with the close-up lens attached. All this seems quite a clever move, especially to reduce weight or costs, and if you have a lens with very ample coverage (important) you could carry around a close-up and convert it into a wider lens when you need. Does anyone do this?

    There will be some losses (in resolution etc) but as I see it those losses are not too bad as the main lens's image size is slightly reduced (and so theoretically its resolution actually improves slightly). Against this you need to factor in the effects of the close-up lens and the fact that you are using the main lens in a region of focus that it may not be optimised for. Of course this needs to be tested some time - I will when I have the time.

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    Re: What's in your 4x5 Lens kit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Kaye View Post
    I suspect that most people buy a camera with a 150mm lens as their first lens, without too much thought or on a dealer's recommendation, or because it was in the kit they bought secondhand, and then it doesn't make much sense to go to 180mm and 135mm (which are my favourites) because that's quite close to something they already have. A bit of a pity.

    On a different line, away from this "I have an X a Y and a Z" (but still relevant to this thread), I recently bought a G-Claron 210mm lens on the *bay last week and it arrived with a +1 close-up lens attached. Obviously the dealer didn't notice. No problem. But that was presumably how the previous guy was using the lens: as a convertible lens, 210mm without the +1 and about 150mm with the +1. Of course infinity focus is perfectly possible with the close-up lens attached. All this seems quite a clever move, especially to reduce weight or costs, and if you have a lens with very ample coverage (important) you could carry around a close-up and convert it into a wider lens when you need. Does anyone do this?

    There will be some losses (in resolution etc) but as I see it those losses are not too bad as the main lens's image size is slightly reduced (and so theoretically its resolution actually improves slightly). Against this you need to factor in the effects of the close-up lens and the fact that you are using the main lens in a region of focus that it may not be optimised for. Of course this needs to be tested some time - I will when I have the time.

    I richard.

    I use a Rodenstock 210 APO SIRONAR-S with Nikon 6t and 5t achromat close up lenses. Nikon 5t and 6T are expensive now en e-bay. I paid $40.00 each when I bought them new for my 35 mm camera.
    I got about 160 mm combined focal length with 5t lens and 130 mm with the 6t lens.
    I used them on the back of the APO Sironar-s per Kodak professional guide to get the best results. And according to me it works better on the back.
    At 160 mm I can get 54 mm of rise and aout 50mm of shift.
    At 130 mm I get only about 24 mm of rise and about 20 mm of shift. At 130 coverage could be bigger but the thick 6t mount block the light path.
    Loss of quality is minimal if any since lens is stopped down anyway. Combination of primary lens plus positive auxiliary lens is brigther when focused at infinity than lens alone.
    I tried with a +2 B+W close up lens and quality is not as good as with the two element achromats. You can try also Canon 500D.
    In close up work, when getting at 1 : 3 and beyond, the lens alone the lens gets soft, in this case adding the close up lens in the front improves the quality of the image.
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    Re: What's in your 4x5 Lens kit?

    I have a Graphex Optar 90mm F/6.8, a pair of 135s (Fuji 5.6 and Graphex Optar 4.7), and a Schneider convertible 150-265 f/5.6-12. I am soon to have a 75mm f.6.8 Rodenstock Grandagon. I haven't used anything but the 15 more than a handful of times, mostly because I haven't had anything but the 150 for more than a month.

    I'm going to be looking back through this thread to see what lenses get used a lot, for my next eventual but probably much delayed lens purchase.
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    Re: What's in your 4x5 Lens kit?

    I thought I'd stay with just a 90 and 150 but things got out of hand...

    Regular stuff:
    Schneider 47mm f/5.6 XL
    Schneider 58mm f/5.6 XL
    Schneider 90mm f/8
    Schneider APO 150mm f/5.6
    Schneider Symmar-S 210mm f/5.6
    Nikon 360/500/720 telephoto set

    Special stuff:
    G-Claron 150mm f/9 (for macro)
    Wollensak Verito 11.5in f/4 diffuse focus lens
    Aero-Ektar 178mm f/2.5
    Schneider Xenon 12.5cm f/2

    I like to have the tools I need for what I want to shoot. Not that you can't make images forever with just one lens, but there are special effects that you need different things for.
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    Re: What's in your 4x5 Lens kit?

    Updated kit:

    Studio and field:
    Nikkor SW 65/4
    Nikkor SW 75/4.5
    Fujinon SWD 90/5.6
    Nikkor SW 120/8
    Rodenstock Apo-Sironar S 135/5.6
    Rodenstock Apo-Sironar S 150/5.6
    Rodenstock Apo-Sironar S 180/5.6
    Rodenstock Apo-Makro-Sironar 180/5.6
    Rodenstock Apo-Sironar S 210/5.6
    Rodenstock Apo-Sironar N 240/5.6
    Nikkor M 300/9
    Nikkor W 360/6.5
    Nikkor M 450/9

    Studio only:
    Swiss-made Goerz Gold Dot Dagor 8-1/4"/6.8

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    Re: What's in your 4x5 Lens kit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh View Post
    Updated kit:

    Studio and field:
    Nikkor SW 65/4
    Nikkor SW 75/4.5
    Fujinon SWD 90/5.6
    Nikkor SW 120/8
    Rodenstock Apo-Sironar S 135/5.6
    Rodenstock Apo-Sironar S 150/5.6
    Rodenstock Apo-Sironar S 180/5.6
    Rodenstock Apo-Makro-Sironar 180/5.6
    Rodenstock Apo-Sironar S 210/5.6
    Rodenstock Apo-Sironar N 240/5.6
    Nikkor M 300/9
    Nikkor W 360/6.5
    Nikkor M 450/9

    Studio only:
    Swiss-made Goerz Gold Dot Dagor 8-1/4"/6.8

    - Leigh
    Leigh,

    Your lenses are quite closely spaced in mm (65-75 -90 and 120-135-150) Any reason for this? (as a fellow photographer said once; you also have your feet..I understand that that isn't always an option off course)

    Best,

    Cor

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    Re: What's in your 4x5 Lens kit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cor View Post
    Leigh,

    Your lenses are quite closely spaced in mm (65-75 -90 and 120-135-150) Any reason for this? (as a fellow photographer said once; you also have your feet..I understand that that isn't always an option off course)

    Best,

    Cor
    Hi Cor,

    Yes, they are close. The kit was set up in AoV steps of roughly 4° to 5°, for a couple of reasons.

    1) I'm pretty picky about framing, and usually try to get exactly what I want on the film. This comes from many decades of shooting slides. I have mobility problems, so feet are not always a viable option.

    2) Reliability. If one lens should fail for some reason, like a shutter problem, I have others available with similar capabilities.

    Since I'm never far from the van when shooting, the weight of the kit doesn't matter.
    I also have 66 film holders, which is much more than I could reasonably carry.
    For that matter, I have six 4x5 cameras, although I usually only take three of them out in the field.
    I also take an 8x10 kit, but didn't mention it since this thread specifically asked about 4x5.


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    Last edited by Leigh; 13-Oct-2011 at 09:36.
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