The Future of Film Photography

[Marko]

Marko,

It's hard to avoid thinking the phrase, "I think he doth protest too loudly." Why are you so determined that all traces of film disappear? It and its vocabulary have been Photography for a long time. What all would be lost if you got your wish?

Say what???

Where or when did you ever hear me saying anything remotely resembling a wish for film to disappear? I just posted a few 4x5 shots on a couple of other threads in the past week, in case you haven't noticed.

I've been shooting and processing film since the early '70s, on and off, and I still enjoy doing it.

But I'm certainly getting tired of all the ludditte nonsense flying around with so much abandon these days and I feel like calling it for what it is occasionally.

You talk a lot about bull-baiting, but I all I see is a lot of bull produce there. Perhaps you could bother reading what I actually say the next time you choose to make these kinds of comments?

[Drew Wiley]

I keep hearing all these quotes from the Alien movies: "You're all going to die!" Or is it
just because this is Halloween season that all the ghouls have arisen. Let's see, was
Alien "filmed" in film, digital, or both?

[Robert Hughes]

I'm certainly getting tired of all the ludditte nonsense flying around with so much abandon these days and I feel like calling it for what it is occasionally.

Seconded.

[Kirk Gittings]

Kirk, you're correct.

-Betterlight user-

Jeremy, Why is there such a huge variation in capture speed at 1.1GB?

[tgtaylor]

As with analogue, the capture time will be dependant on the available light and the aperture selected. I suspect that the 100 second minimum time would be for good light and wide aperture - like f2 on a sunny day outydoors.

[Jeremy Moore]

Jeremy, Why is there such a huge variation in capture speed at 1.1GB?

Kirk, there's not. You set a line time--think like shutter speeds on a Noblex. The longest capture time is at the slowest speed you can set.

If you're interested I can report back some actual line times/total scan time/file size combos when I shoot again (have some maps to digitize this week).

[Chris Jones]

Some twenty years ago the story doing the rounds with undergrad communication and art students was that HD video would make film obsolete and all that training with film being then undertaken would also be obsolete. Today, Kodak still make super 8, Tri X and Ektachrome, is it? (Knocking technological determinism out of the head of students is probably the most difficult teaching task.)

In the art world, film and digital are different mediums. It is one of those facts of nature that digital cannot equal film. Digital is also the older technology if one were to do the historical research. Liz Grosz has written on this, from memory. (I should check, apologies for being lazy.)

[Kirk Gittings]

Kirk, there's not. You set a line time--think like shutter speeds on a Noblex. The longest capture time is at the slowest speed you can set.

If you're interested I can report back some actual line times/total scan time/file size combos when I shoot again (have some maps to digitize this week).

I see. I thought it had to do with the "write speed" to the internal drive like the write speed on a CF card. Yes I am curious about the real times.

[tgtaylor]

The longest capture time is at the slowest speed you can set.

HaHaHa, that was funny!

[Robert Hughes]

It is one of those facts of nature that digital cannot equal film.

Well, there you go. It's a fact of Nature. What's the point in arguing?