Need Advice To Go Through This Horror

[Hugo J. Zhang]

I am mostly what you call a amatrur fine art photography. I have a day job and i n my spare time I do 8x10, mostly B&W landscapes and still life with pyro and co ntact print them. About a few months ago, maybe under the influence or inspirati on of Sally Mann and Jocks Sturges, I took a few snap shots with my hassy of my children(a 8 yr old boy and a 7 yr old girl)unclothed in the bathtub. I thought they were innocent pictures and took it to a local lab to process it(I only proc ess my 8x10s)last week. Detectives showed up in my house yesterday morning with these "disturbing" pictures, searched the house, took my computer and a social s ervice lady showed up in the afternoon. I am not allowed to see my kids and had to stay in a hotel last night. I am waiting for their words now. No clue what is going to happen. I did not know child nudity = child porno which I think they a re investigating. I came into this country 12 yrs ago and never come to somethin g like this. Do I need a lawyer? Any similar experience and advice?

[David Leblanc]

Ouch. I saw an episode of 60 Minutes a few weeks ago that dealt with this issue. Perhaps you could contact the producers of the show and get in touch with some of the other people in your situation. I believe at least one of them is suing Wal-Mart (where he got his prints made). In any case, I think a lawyer is in order -- this sounds pretty serious.

[tim atherton]

has anything similar happened - yes see: http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index.html

as well as a web search for Sturges+FBI

Do you need a lawyer - most definately YES

You have msot likely become the victim of the "purian" police and a moronic (though probably also put in a stupid positiion by the State) Processing Lab employee. I think the above article sums it up well.

However - #1 - get a damn good lawyer

tim a

[Chad Jarvis]

Good God, what has happened to America? It used to be that the "bathing kid" was a standard snapshot (usually used to embarrass the child later in life) that every parent had. Perhaps it still is, but obviously the person who saw yours grew up during this period of political correctness and has no sense of what these types of pictures mean to parents. I'll say it again: Good God. Yes, get a lawyer, whether you need one or not. Any attourney worth his salt will be able to nip this thing in the bud. I fear, however, for your reputation amongst neighbors and friends. Please keep us informed, as I personally find this very disturbing.

[Jeff Buckels]

Sir: (1) Get a lawyer immediately. And contrary to the previous comment, "any decent lawyer" will not do. You need a reputable and experienced criminal defense attorney, someone with experience in First Amendment (free expression) issues. (2) Post no more inquiries on this service about this matter. Talk to no one but to your lawyer about this.... I cannot help you with this but I may be able to help you find an appropriate attorney. If you want that kind of help, email me separately and include your telephone number. -jeff buckels (albuquerque nm)

[Scott Hamming]

I'm sorry to hear of your current plight. Photoprocessors are required by law to notify the local police of any "child nudity", however anyone might define it. I'm sure there are some legal nuances based on whatever state your in. Having been previously employed in the mental health field with kids and much contact with social workers, I would be equally (if not more)wary of the SW than the police. The police will invariably back up their opinions. This is not to say some are extremely good and qualified, but there can be underlying political issues at stake depending on your local system. Get a GOOD lawyer, preferably with experience in this arena. This is no issue to take lightly considering the current and potential future consequences to your children and yourself. Best of luck.

[Larry Sandt]

Thanks to the Opra, Montel, Rosie, Maury watching photo lab loser lady, you are in this perdicament.

Get a good lawyer.

[Chad Jarvis]

Jeff, if you are going to QUOTE someone, please get it right. "Any attourney worth his salt" does not equate to "any decent lawyer" (either within quotes or without). In fact, I've always believed that the phrase "worth his salt" means "good".

[Matt_1193]

It is true that the innocent "baby-bath" pics have been taken for decades, and are still taken every day by proud parents. I think what is at issue with the legal-eagles here has more to do with the ages of your children. The age at which the innocent naked-child pictures seem acceptable is quite a bit younger than 8 years old - like 7 years younger. Obviously, the best legal representation that you can get IS in order. You cannot afford to NOT afford it!

[Donald Brewster]

Good advice above -- get a good First Amendment lawyer. Geez -- standard kid shot is right -- up on my refrigerator is a photo circa 1966 with all four of the kids in my family (3 boys -- ages 9,8,and 5 and a girl age 2). Yeah, I always thought my parents were suspect -- what a crock. Don't know what the "family protection" types would think of that. Hugo is right -- nudity doesn't equal porno -- one of these days this country will get that.