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    Question Model releases when the model is a mule...

    ...owned by a large corporation. Can the wrangler sign it, or the stable manager? Or does it need to be a corporate officer maybe?

    "Dorothy" is owned by a guest services contractor who has the franchise for guest services within several U.S. National Parks.

    What about a mules who are contracted out to the guest services franchisee by as livestock contractor? Whose signature do I need?

    Couldn't I just get Dorothy's hoof print on the form?
    I steal time at 1/125th of a second, so I don't consider my photography to be Fine Art as much as it is petty larceny.

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    Re: Model releases when the model is a mule...

    Don't know how serious you are, but don't think mules would be covered under a model release...no more than photographing a guest service provider's shuttle bus.

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    Re: Model releases when the model is a mule...

    If your serious about record keeping i would get a property release.
    Most likely you will need an officer of the owning corporation to sign it.
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    Re: Model releases when the model is a mule...

    Hi John,

    LOL... this is a humorous posting!

    There are a couple of mules/jackasses that post every so often here on the forum. You might want to ask one of them!

    Seriously speaking, John, I wouldn't think that a hoof print would be legally binding. However, it would seem to me that getting the signature of the owner of said mule would be appropriate. If that owner is a corporation, then one of the officers (with signing authority) of the company would probably be eligible to sign a release.

    Having said that... I'm not a lawyer and, therefore, the above is not to be construed as de facto legal advice.

    Aren't there a couple of lawyers on this forum?

    Brian?

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    Re: Model releases when the model is a mule...

    Thanks Ian.

    I hope they have a corporate officer in my time zone!
    I steal time at 1/125th of a second, so I don't consider my photography to be Fine Art as much as it is petty larceny.

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    Re: Model releases when the model is a mule...

    Hi John,

    If its a medium to large corp and you have a contact there. Have them direct you too the legal dept. One of the paralegals should be able to help you find the best solution to get the release signed. They may even be able to fax a signed copy.
    Paralegals are some of the best people in large corporations to work with. They know all and do all.

    Good luck!
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    Re: Model releases when the model is a mule...

    Capocheny,
    Yes, I'm trying to find someone with the authority to sign a property/model release so I can include Dorothy in a photo essay on Sierra Nevada pack mules I'm going to try to finish this summer. Mom and Pop pack stations are easy to communicate with---large corporations are something else
    I steal time at 1/125th of a second, so I don't consider my photography to be Fine Art as much as it is petty larceny.

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    Re: Model releases when the model is a mule...

    Quote Originally Posted by John Kasaian View Post
    Capocheny,
    Yes, I'm trying to find someone with the authority to sign a property/model release so I can include Dorothy in a photo essay on Sierra Nevada pack mules I'm going to try to finish this summer. Mom and Pop pack stations are easy to communicate with---large corporations are something else
    Hi John,

    You might also contact the corporation's PR department... if you ask them for their help, I find most people in a PR department are more than willing to do so.

    After all, that's (in theory) their job.

    Yes, large corporations have all sorts of "doors to open." From my experience, if you need to reach a certain executive... be sure to butter up the gatekeeper (his secretary.) They can either make or break the opportunity for you to get in to see the big hondo.

    Best of luck on this, John.

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    Re: Model releases when the model is a mule...

    Is the mule of legal age? If not you'll need the guardian to sign.

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    Re: Model releases when the model is a mule...

    I've had numerous dogs sign releases, but make sure they're over 18.

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