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    Re: Paper Negs Only

    OK...never done this before...so tell me, please!

    Put thin RC photo paper in your film holder, expose as if ISO 2-6 -ish, and then contact print under your enlarger? Is that it?

    How long is the contact exposure approximately? I know everyone's enlarger is different ;-)

    Anyone using an Omega D5 with the 250w halogen? I'd love to get some approx starting points...

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    Re: Paper Negs Only

    I've never done it either, but IMHO you expose the paper in film holder and then directly develop it as a negative print. What/why would you contact print? There's no film negative to print.


    Quote Originally Posted by PViapiano View Post
    OK...never done this before...so tell me, please!

    Put thin RC photo paper in your film holder, expose as if ISO 2-6 -ish, and then contact print under your enlarger? Is that it?

    How long is the contact exposure approximately? I know everyone's enlarger is different ;-)

    Anyone using an Omega D5 with the 250w halogen? I'd love to get some approx starting points...

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    Re: Paper Negs Only

    Quote Originally Posted by PViapiano View Post
    OK...never done this before...so tell me, please!

    Put thin RC photo paper in your film holder, expose as if ISO 2-6 -ish, and then contact print under your enlarger? Is that it?

    How long is the contact exposure approximately? I know everyone's enlarger is different ;-)

    Anyone using an Omega D5 with the 250w halogen? I'd love to get some approx starting points...
    Paul,
    You've got the basics. For dry printing, set the enlarger height at your contact printing standard. Put the paper, emulsion-to-emulsion with the paper neg toward the light source, and do a test strip. Then pick the exposure that you like.

    You can also do them wet with a light source over the sink. The emulsion-to-emulsion paper "sandwich" needs to be held flat and in close contact with a sheet of glass. Do be careful with the emulsion.

    Have fun!

    Geary

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    Re: Paper Negs Only

    Quote Originally Posted by sparq View Post
    I' What/why would you contact print? There's no film negative to print.
    You contact print to get a positive. The original paper image is the "paper negative"

    Cheers,
    Geary

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    Re: Paper Negs Only

    My approach is to put the paper neg together with the print paper in a contact printer and flip the room lights on for 7 - 15 seconds. Forget the enlarger. You need a lot of light going through the paper to the other paper. Do a test strip just like normal with 3 - 6 - 9 - 12 - 15 - 18 seconds with normal room light and see which one looks good.

    For making the negs I've found that MCRC paper works the best and I put a yellow filter in the light path to soften the contrast that the paper neg is seeing just like using a #1 or 1/2 filter while printing.
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    Re: Paper Negs Only

    john(anian):

    That must have been a long exposure - she fell asleep.

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    Re: Paper Negs Only

    Silly me, why have not I thought of that? Thanks guys. My film workflow ends with a scan in 99% of cases, that's probably why. I have to try the positive Efke papers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparq View Post
    Silly me, why have not I thought of that? Thanks guys. My film workflow ends with a scan in 99% of cases, that's probably why. I have to try the positive Efke papers.
    For lack of time my workflow has ended with a scan on these also until I get time to play in the darkroom. In photoshop you hit control + I and wheeee, an instant positive.


    This is what they look like when they come out of the fixer. BTW this one is Pinkham & Smith and just ROCKS!!!! I'll do one of my comparison pages when I get them all scanned and sorted out. I did eight today. I was supposed to be cleaning the garage
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    Re: Paper Negs Only

    Three different papers, for three images.
    Kodabromide #3, Kodak Polycontrast III RC, Ilford Warmtone Multi-Grade (FB)
    Images 1& 2 - Wista 4x5, 135mm Tessar, Image 3 - Cambo 8x10. 240 G-Claron
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails WarmHearts.jpg   Flower.jpg   Tree2_Claron_f9.jpg  

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    Re: Paper Negs Only

    Quote Originally Posted by Darryl Baird View Post
    Three different papers, for three images.
    Kodabromide #3, Kodak Polycontrast III RC, Ilford Warmtone Multi-Grade (FB)
    Images 1& 2 - Wista 4x5, 135mm Tessar, Image 3 - Cambo 8x10. 240 G-Claron
    Gorgeous. Especially the flower.
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