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    Question Switching between 8 or 16 bit...

    How does switching back and forth between these two modes affect your image?

    I'm curious if you work in 16 bit mode, save the adjusted file in 8 bit to save space, then come back to it for editing another day and switch back to 16 bit mode before editing what happens to the photo, does that affect the overall quality?

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    Re: Switching between 8 or 16 bit...

    If you scan an image in 16bit, then you will have more information than 8bit. If you then change to 8bit, you will lose detail which can not be recovered by converting back again.

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    Re: Switching between 8 or 16 bit...

    Once you've edited in 16 bit and convert to 8-bit--you loose data that doesn't come back if you convert to 16 bit again. There's very little advantage in converting back to 16 bit mode once you've gone to 8 bit and it doesn't make sense from a workflow standpoint. Hard drives are cheap and getting cheaper, why not just save a 16 bit version?

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    Re: Switching between 8 or 16 bit...

    Thanks guys, that is exactly what I needed to know.

    I have been editing and saving in 16 bit, but if you want to use certain filters, or save in some formats you must convert to 8 bit. I started wondering what happened when you switched to 8 bit for a certain function, then switched back to 16 bit.

    I agree, disc space is cheap these days...

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    Re: Switching between 8 or 16 bit...

    Quote Originally Posted by BarryS View Post
    Once you've edited in 16 bit and convert to 8-bit--you loose data that doesn't come back if you convert to 16 bit again. There's very little advantage in converting back to 16 bit mode once you've gone to 8 bit and it doesn't make sense from a workflow standpoint. Hard drives are cheap and getting cheaper, why not just save a 16 bit version?
    It is definitely better to edit and save your files in 16 bit, especially if you plan to do any further editing.

    However, if you have already saved the file as 8 bit and open it again for editing there is some advantage to converting it to 16 bit. You don't recover the lost data but you won't lose as much in editing as you would if doing this in 8 bit.

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    Last edited by sanking; 19-Mar-2008 at 11:32.

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    Re: Switching between 8 or 16 bit...

    Quote Originally Posted by sanking View Post
    It is definitely better to edit and save your files in 16 bit, especially if you plan to do any further editing.

    However, if you have already saved the file as 8 bit and open it again for editing there is some advantage to converting it to 16 bit. You don't recover the lost data but you won't lose as much in editing as you would if doing this in 8 bit.

    Sandy King
    What Sandy said.

    Converting back to 16 bit will at least lessen bit rounding errors than by leaving it in 8 bit mode.

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    Re: Switching between 8 or 16 bit...

    Also good to know since some of the functions require 8 bit mode, at least if I switch back into 16 bit it helps some...

    Thanks everyone.

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    Re: Switching between 8 or 16 bit...

    Just curious. What functions that require switching into 8 bit mode are you referring to? In my workflow for fine art prints, I can stay in 16 bit right up to the final save????
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    Re: Switching between 8 or 16 bit...

    Quote Originally Posted by sanking View Post
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    However, if you have already saved the file as 8 bit and open it again for editing there is some advantage to converting it to 16 bit. You don't recover the lost data but you won't lose as much in editing as you would if doing this in 8 bit.

    Sandy King
    Absolutely true, but any major manipulation of the image should be done in 16 bit mode prior to converting to 8 bit. Any processing done after converting to 8-bit should be kept to minor adjustments and in that case it's unlikely to see a significant difference between a file left in 8 bit and converted to 16 bit. But you're right, working at a deeper bit depth is sometimes preferable. For some video editing and color grading work I do, it's not uncommon to transcode an 8 bit video codec to something like Apple ProRes 422 which is 10 bits. Heavy color grading will produce less artifacts when done at a greater bit depth.

    I stay in 16 bit until my images go to my Epson 8 bit print driver. It seems like the jury is still out on whether a 16 bit print driver makes much of a difference.

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    Re: Switching between 8 or 16 bit...

    Hey trink408 - I just gotta ask: Are both of your "avatar" images, of you ?

    If so, then which one is more recent ?

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