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    Really wide lenses - examples?

    My "normal" lens for 4x5 is a 90mm, in that I use it about 80% of the time. When I shot 35mm, I really liked using a 17, which is about 55mm for 4x5. Can any post an image or two with a really wide lens - 47/55/58? Do these support any movements, or would they would as well on a Fotoman? If I get one, I will need a cheap camera to go with it, since I cannot use it on my Technika.

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    Re: Really wide lenses - examples?

    I've just posted a picture taken with a 55 mm Apo-Grandagon with some rise in the 'how about a picture post?' thread, and here is a link to it.

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    Re: Really wide lenses - examples?

    Here is one I took about 6 years ago with a 58XL. I am about 14 inches from that rock and it is about 14 inches in diameter:

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    Re: Really wide lenses - examples?

    Jack,

    What a great image!

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    Re: Really wide lenses - examples?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Richards
    Do these support any movements, or would they would as well on a Fotoman? If I get one, I will need a cheap camera to go with it, since I cannot use it on my Technika.
    Ed, Here are the movements possible with modern lenses:

    http://www.largeformatphotography.in...s/LF4x5in.html

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    Re: Really wide lenses - examples?

    Here's one I've posted before, Berthiot 120mm/f:14 Perigraphe on 8x10"--



    If you are an APUG subscriber (if not, I think you only can see a thumbnail), here's one with a 55mm/f:4.5 Apo-Grandagon on 4x5"--

    http://www.apug.org/gallery/showphot...=500&ppuser=60

    And here's another with an older 65mm/f:8 Super-Angulon--

    http://www.apug.org/gallery/showphot...=500&ppuser=60

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    Ron,

    Thanks! I had missed that. I can visulize what 9mm of rise will do, but is 9 degrees of tilt useful? It is not a lot, but then I guess with a 58, it does not need to be a lot. Jack, did you use tilt? Bet these are REALLY sensitive to not having the camera aligned exactly.

    David and others,

    Are you using center filters?
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    Excellent picture, Helen!

    Ed, here is one with a 58 Schneider using about 3/4 inch of fall on the front and the center filter. I rarely use this lense without the CF. Here, I'm backed into the corner of an apartment bedroom. (Link)

    I wouldn't worry about movements too much. Most cameras won't let you do much with a lens this short anyway and when stopped down it mostly does not matter. Exceptions might be Jack's picture with the rock at 14 inches from the camera.

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    My question about movements is really about the cheapest camera I can use one of these on - there is no way I can use it on my old Technika, so I need a second camera. I want to hold on to the Technika because I like to use the nangefinder, so I do not want to spend a lot on the second camera. If movements were not an issue, I could use a Fotoman. If they are useful, I might be able to use a Shen-Ho with the bag bellows. (I really want to avoid recessed lens boards.) Anyone know the minium bellows extension on a Crown Graphic - the flange focal length for a 58 is 70mm.
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    Re: Really wide lenses - examples?

    Why can't you use one of those Chinese made (or the original OEM) helical focusing mounts on a Technika board? And just go wide enough that movements are ridiculous (like >65mm).

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