Seperating lens elements for cleaning

[AnselAdamsX]

I picked up a couple of vintage Voigtlander Avus 9x12 cameras with Skopar lenses.
One lens appears to have some fungus between the front two elements and the other looks like it is a little fogged.
I don't see any slots for a spanner to seperate the lenses. Anyone know how to seperate these kinds of lenses?

Thanks
Chris

Fungus

Fogged

[Vick Ko]

Could be friction, get a rubber tool, like a cork or drain plug.

Vick

[AnselAdamsX]

Could be friction, get a rubber tool, like a cork or drain plug.

Vick

That did the trick.

Thanks
Chris