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    Question noise suppresion in the Imacon 848 scans

    Hello,

    I have a posibility to have scanned my 4x5 negatives with Imacon 848. First batch arrived already. While the dynamic range and sharpness is much beter than with a flatbed scanner (drum scanning at a price of 200 euro is beyond my possibilities) I do notice rather high noise in the scans.

    I am about to get the Picture Cooloer which is rather cheap and produces a reasonable clean-up of the image.

    The question is:

    Should I first adjust the picture in the PS and in the end use the PictureCooler, or vice versa?

    Let me mention that I do decrease the size of the original scan as it has ~ 200 MB (~70 Mpix) to ~ 60 MB for the final print (~ 10 x 14 '').

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    Re: noise suppresion in the Imacon 848 scans

    I would print one first to see if the noise shows up in the print. It may not show in the print. Then perhaps print it again after you have used PictureCooler to compare.

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    Re: noise suppresion in the Imacon 848 scans

    Are they scans of reversal film?

    When removing noise or graininess, my practice has been to do that early in the process - usually the first step. I've never had noise problems with Imacon 848 scans, even with Kodachrome.

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    Re: noise suppresion in the Imacon 848 scans

    Quote Originally Posted by Matus Kalisky View Post
    Should I first adjust the picture in the PS and in the end use the PictureCooler, or vice versa?
    Scanning color negatives produces noise in the highlights (i.e. dark areas of the negative). For many people this is a surprise. The good news is that your shadows will likely be noise-free!

    Tools like Noise-Ninja look for statistical patterns in the data in order to clean up the image with the least amount of softening (however, some softening is bound to occur). As such, you should do your "de-noising" before performing any other changes to the data (including resizing). While it is painful, I often duplicate the orginal data to a new layer, label it "Noise Ninja" and see if I like what transpires. Usually I "mix" the Noise Ninja highlights with the original shadows to obtain a reasonable compromise.

    As others have advised you already: often you cannot see any differences in PRINT -- you should not worry too much about what you see on screen, and rely more on what the print looks like instead.

    Cheers,
    Last edited by MJSfoto1956; 15-Nov-2006 at 21:14.

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    Re: noise suppresion in the Imacon 848 scans

    Quote Originally Posted by MJSfoto1956 View Post
    Scanning color negatives produces noise in the highlights (i.e. dark areas of the negative)...
    With an Imacon 848? What colour negative film gets dense enough to cause a problem?

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    Re: noise suppresion in the Imacon 848 scans

    Thanks for your comments

    Excuse me for not making myself clear enough - I am speaking of Ilford fp4+, kodak E100G and kodak EPP 100. The noise is not so tragical and especially after downscaling the imga size it will probably be reduced anyhow. But I also shoot DSLR where I tend to increase the image size.

    Matus..

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