Joel's Thread Temporarily Removed from View

[neil poulsen]

Hi all.

I have temporarily removed Joel's thread on film holders from view, until I decide what to do with it. That'll give people time to cool off a little. It's an excellent thread in several respects and evolved into a discussion about the differences between depth of field and depth of focus. But personal attacks (e.g. name calling) began, and things got out of hand.

In having discussions of differences of opinions, there's a playing field that enables us to keep the discussion at a professional and informed level. I think Tuan has done a good job in defining the boundaries of that playing field in the guidelines. Probably the most important aspect of staying on that field is avoiding personal attacks. It doesn't matter how right or wrong we are, we step over a line when we call someone else a name or assassinate their character. The best time to consider this line and it's existance is when we begin getting hot under the collar.

Joel's thread will be returned to view at some time in the near future.

[steve simmons]

I would suggest editing out the character insults and name calling and then putting it back. I appreciate the moderation in this thread.

steve simmons

[robc]

I would suggest leaving it unedited so as not to create a distorted view of how the thread evolved and why.

[Steve Hamley]

Neil.

I'd kill the thread or delete any inflamatory post in its entirety because there will never be a definitive resolution (pun intended) and the absolute worst flame wars I've ever seen seem to be on film flatness between different film holders! Who would have thought? There was one on the usenet a year or three ago that was - well, infamous in my mind.

Why do people feel so strongly about this one subject?

Steve

[Kirk Gittings]

Steve,

I honestly don't think the feelings are about this subject. I think thwe feelings are about the people who posted about the subject.

[Caroline Matthews]

I leave the thread, but slap the hands of the flamers.

Alternatively, I'd ban Simmons from the board.

[darr]

I leave the thread, but slap the hands of the flamers.
Alternatively, I'd ban Jorge from the board since he wins top place for name calling (liar, liar) and personal insults. Take a poll if you really want to get a sampling of what forum readers think.

[Brian Vuillemenot]

Why can't we all get along? Boys, play nicely!

[Mark_3632]

Caz, Darr

Grow up.

Thank you neil. I had tried to wade through the childishness for the informtive stuff but it was a head ache.

[Caroline Matthews]

Markie,

I am grown up. There are some people who are at the root of the flaming here. Get real.