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Thread: 100/105mm "tweener" lenses for 4x5/6x12?

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    Re: 100/105mm "tweener" lenses for 4x5/6x12?

    The 90mm f/5.6 Super Topcor has an image circle of 150mm. The 10.5cm Super Topcor has an image circle of 158mm. Let me know if you might be interested in one of these lenses.

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    Re: 100/105mm "tweener" lenses for 4x5/6x12?

    Did anyone mention the Nikkor M 105/3.5 tessar yet? Modern, tiny, multicoated, bright, and very nice on 6x9, OK for 6X12 (crisp up to 6X11), but worthless on 4X5.

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    Re: 100/105mm "tweener" lenses for 4x5/6x12?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Wiley View Post
    Did anyone mention the Nikkor M 105/3.5 tessar yet? Modern, tiny, multicoated, bright, and very nice on 6x9, OK for 6X12 (crisp up to 6X11), but worthless on 4X5.
    Thanks Kumar and Drew--I admit the Topcor's weren't on my radar; as for the Nikkor, I believe LF member Corran might have one. (Haven't seen one of those for sale, but if it's similar to the M200/M300 it sounds right up my alley--though perhaps a bit spendy.)

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    Re: 100/105mm "tweener" lenses for 4x5/6x12?

    If Topcon choose Super not Pro.

    Coverage is different.
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    Re: 100/105mm "tweener" lenses for 4x5/6x12?

    For run and gun landscapes I would go with a wider lens, for example 90mm. 100mm in my view is a bit more than mildly wide on 4x5. I'm a fan of Nikkors; they are consistently good across the range. A Nikkor-SW 90/4.5 or 90/8 is only a little more money than the Topcor, if you take your time and are patient about finding a good deal.

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    Re: 100/105mm "tweener" lenses for 4x5/6x12?

    I did buy Kumar's 105mm Nikkor-M a little while ago. Nice lens. I don't think I'd push it to 6x12. More to the point - any reason you aren't settling for a modest 90mm Angulon, Optar, or similar lens, or better, any of the many 90mm f/8 lenses available? Of course they are larger - but if you are shooting 6x12 along with 4x5, IMO you should get the lens that works best for both including using movements, and not one that is marginal for 4x5 if even useful. Plus many of these 90mm f/8 lenses are dirt cheap (I had trouble getting rid of a couple spare Super Angulons some years ago for only $100-150 apiece).

    The difference from 90mm to 105mm is not much.

    With 90mm lenses I do use front rise/fall to keep trees "straight" in the scene with some high/low compositions. That perspective distortion bothers me when shooting 6x7 and a 55mm lens on occasion.
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    Re: 100/105mm "tweener" lenses for 4x5/6x12?

    Quote Originally Posted by Corran View Post
    I did buy Kumar's 105mm Nikkor-M a little while ago. Nice lens. I don't think I'd push it to 6x12. More to the point - any reason you aren't settling for a modest 90mm Angulon, Optar, or similar lens, or better, any of the many 90mm f/8 lenses available? Of course they are larger [...]
    To make it clear, the Super-Angulon type 90/8 lenses are the larger ones. Plain Angulons are about as small as they get. 4-element Gauss wides like the 100mm Wide Field Ektar are somewhere in between. You can see a size comparison with 100/6.3 WFE, 90/6.8 Angulon and 90/8 Nikkor SW (Super Angulon style modern wide) here: http://www.thalmann.com/largeformat/wide.htm.

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    Re: 100/105mm "tweener" lenses for 4x5/6x12?

    Kumar, thanks for reminding us of Topcor lenses for Horseman cameras. I've always ignored them because they're not really for other cameras. They typically come mounted on Horseman boards with the flash terminal and cable release socket on the board, not on the shutter, so aren't easily used on cameras that don't accept Horseman boards. But for Horseman cameras ...

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    Re: 100/105mm "tweener" lenses for 4x5/6x12?

    Exactly . . . I like photographing architecture, and for me, there's a noticeable gap between 90mm SW and my 121mm SA. I purchased a Fujinon SW long ago to fill that gap. Given it's larger image circle, I also have the 90mm Nikkor f8 lens. (Versus the f5.6 version.)

    This trio of f8 lenses really work well for me.

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    Re: 100/105mm "tweener" lenses for 4x5/6x12?

    Thanks for all the additional viewpoints, gents: much appreciated! FWIW, all this was set off by my coming across a Schneider 100/5.6 for not a lot of money from one of the bigger used lens vendors. (What can I say, I am by nature and long habit a Pentaxian at heart.) I will definitely take Chris and Bryan's points about dropping down to a 90mm to heart as well.

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