4x5 Sheet Film, Loading and Unloading

[Doug Dolde]

I confess I have never bought sheet 4x5 film or any film holders. So far it's been totally Fuji QL's for me.

The deal is, I just acquired 400 sheets (8 boxes) of Kodak E100S in a package deal, but I don't own any film holders or changing tent. It's expired 10/04 but frozen since new. I am sure it's still OK but...there is the loading the holders thing that I am clueless on.

I can Ebay the film or buy some holders and try it. Frankly I have little confidence that it will work out. Then there's the removing the film from the holders...keeping the light out of it...seems like a real PITA compared to QL.

Or am I just paranoid?

[Capocheny]

Greetings Doug,

If I may be so bold... buy some holders and give it a try. In comparison to using Quickloads, you're right... there's NO doubt that the process of loading and unloading the holders IS a giant pain in the butt. But, on the other hand, it's not as big a deal as it may appear to be either.

There ARE some advantages to doing this... you ALREADY have the film. The film will be just fine... I have mine frozen in the freezer and haven't had any problems in the past. Just make sure to give it time to "acclimatize" to the environment or you may/can have condensation problems.

To get use to the process of loading/unloading film... I'd advise taking a sheet of wasted film and practicing in the light of day. Then, do it in the dark. It won't take very long to get use to the loading/unloading process. I promise!

I use an empty (or relatively empty) closet at night to load and unload my film... haven't ever had any problems with dust. That said, you do have to keep the holders meticulously clean.

I believe there's a set of instructions available here on Photo.net that demonstrates "how to do it." I can't locate it at the moment but, if I do... I'll post it. Hopefully, someone else can post it before I do.

Good luck.

Cheers

[Eric Leppanen]

Doug,

This should get you started: www.butzi.net/articles/filmload.htm

[Capocheny]

Thanks Eric...

Cheers,

[John Cook]

I never thought of loading holders as difficult. But here are a few little tidbits to ease the way:

1. Work with clean holders in an area with still air. Fans and forced air heating move dust. Even a relatively dirty place may be okay if you refrain from stirring things up. Refrain from working around w/w carpeting as much as possible. Having a wife with allergies can be a blessing in photography.

2. Purchase film in 25-sheet boxes for a while, save and label the empty boxes. The most difficult part of unloading film is keeping it all straight. There is more bookkeeping than photography.

3. Don't get nervous. Sweaty hands will leave permanent fingerprints on your negatives.

4. Don't let glamorous women who consume globs of hand creme near the film either, for the same reason. Farmers and construction workers with dry rough hands are best.

5. Get used to picking up the film by grasping the notches in the fingers of your right hand. Always do it the same way and your film will always be oriented properly, without having to think about it. Habits are wonderful things in the dark.

6. Don't trim your fingernails too short. Trying to grab hold of a sheet of film with no nails is like toothlessly gumming your baked beans.

[Donald Hutton]

Personally, I find unloading regular holders far easier and faster than Quickloads - a little care with storing your holders and cleaning them carefully once in a while goes a long way to ensuring the dust gremlins are kept away.

4X5 is a real breeze and you really should have no issues whatsoever (OTOH 12x20s are a little more challenging and at a good few $$ per sheet, you really don't want to mess them up...) - they're small enough to get you fingers around comfortably. I always place my thumb and forefinger of the non film holding hand on the openings of the two rails as I slide the film in - lightly but just enough so that I can feel that the film has actually slid under both rails.

[Bill_1856]

eBay it.

[Neal Wydra]

Dear Doug,

It's sort of like what I tell my sister about driving. If so many others can do it, you can too.<g>

For me, www.cameta.com has been a good source for holders.

[matthew blais]

Now that I have a year under my belt at 4x5, I found it a bit intimidating at first but now can go in and load ten holders in about ten minutes.
I also find the act of loading and unloading starts the excitement factor.. I know I'm going to be heading out to search for the great American (or other country) photograph.

It's all part of the process and each has it's own reward or gratification factor.
For me anyway...

[Bruce Watson]

http://largeformatphotography.info/loading.html