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    Re: Scanned Darkroom Prints Look Awful

    Quote Originally Posted by Corran View Post
    I'm curious to know why you both thought that.

    The bottom one is...the print!
    the bottom one has more contrast , which lead me to believe you boosted in PS to create a level playing field.. But good comparison

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    Re: Scanned Darkroom Prints Look Awful

    Right, that was my point, about editing the print scan to match a film scan. Or, one can look at the print in proper light and match it to that, which is what I normally do.
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    Re: Scanned Darkroom Prints Look Awful

    Quote Originally Posted by Corran View Post
    I'm curious to know why you both thought that.

    The bottom one is...the print!

    I got it wrong at first as well as the second image appears sharper and you have to look really close to pick up the grain. How each scan is sharpened and resolution is going to have the greatest effect. If you manually sharpened each as best you could and printed to 13x19 or larger I suspect the difference would stand out if you looked close enough, but I also suspect some would chose the print. Grain can actually increase apparent actuence. The way that gets you to the result that satisfies your personal vision and workflow is always the best in my opinion.

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    Re: Scanned Darkroom Prints Look Awful

    I was thinking it was the scan because it seemed a bit more contrasty which I usually associate with 2nd generation images. Oh well, too bad I didn't hit the lottery for the big prize.

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    Re: Scanned Darkroom Prints Look Awful

    Remember, the point of this thread is scanning prints to show in an online portfolio, not to make a digital copy for reproduction (though of course you can do that). Perhaps I should not have shown a comparison to a film scan as that is somewhat irrelevant to the aforementioned goal stated by the OP. But my point was, with proper editing, one should be able to match whatever source material they are attempting to represent.
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    Re: Scanned Darkroom Prints Look Awful

    Lately, when I want a copy/scan of any print over 8X10 I use an iPhone SE which has an amazing camera.

    Yesterday I submitted to a local print competition. Never done that before. All had to be submitted digitally as close to actual print as possible. They will reject any winning print if it is vastly different. Even if it's the 'winner'.

    Judging is on a monitor, but the print matters most.

    I submitted 3 vastly different images. One a metal print, an Inkjet, and a Silver Gelatin print.

    I think my prints and the digital image are close. I use the Bryan method.
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    Re: Scanned Darkroom Prints Look Awful

    Quote Originally Posted by IanBarber View Post
    The final scan does not look like the print in my hand, the digital reproduction looks lower in contrast.
    How many stops from black to white can your print hold? How many stops from black to white can your monitor show?

    You can't reasonably expect a reflected medium and a transmission medium to "look the same". That's just the laws of physics talking to ya.

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    Re: Scanned Darkroom Prints Look Awful

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Watson View Post
    How many stops from black to white can your print hold? How many stops from black to white can your monitor show?

    You can't reasonably expect a reflected medium and a transmission medium to "look the same". That's just the laws of physics talking to ya.
    When put like that, its a good valid point

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    Re: Scanned Darkroom Prints Look Awful

    Quote Originally Posted by IanBarber View Post
    When put like that, its a good valid point
    Also, the monitor is transmitted light, the print reflected. Big difference.

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    Re: Scanned Darkroom Prints Look Awful

    We cannot really tell if a scanned darkroom print is good unless we master digital printing of it.
    As it concerns web presentations, I am a bystander. ;0
    Best of luck!

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