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    Re: Wide angle for 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by mdarnton View Post
    There are two Wolly 159mm lenses
    They promoted the coverage of the f/12.5, and the wide-open sharpness of the f/9.5. I bought the f/9.5 for my Intrepid but haven't used it yet.
    I might be mis-remembering, but I thought the two types were the same, but the "max" aperture was changed to f/12.5 to denote the widest usable aperture. Mine was marked f/12.5, but opened up wider - this made the image very soft and glowy.

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    Did you ever consider that maybe you got a bad example?
    That's why I followed up my statement saying I've seen the same exact issue on photos made with that lens by others. Ask Vaughn, he has said the same thing on this forum. It's a dog, unless there's the rare good example floating around .

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    Re: Wide angle for 8x10

    https://web.archive.org/web/20180424...0/222932797909 should just cover 8x10. This one has separations. They're not that rare, turn up more on ebay.fr than on ebay.com. And they're usually fairly inexpensive.

    David Goldfarb, who posts more on photrio.com than here, has one that Steve Grimes remounted in an Ilex #3. Front-mounting may be a better option. The 120/14 is in the same barrel as my 60/14, which can be stuffed into the front of a Ilex #3. I had to have the shutter's rear tube truncated to get full coverage, expect that this would be necessary for a 120 on 8x10.

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    Re: Wide angle for 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by Corran View Post
    I might be mis-remembering, but I thought the two types were the same, but the "max" aperture was changed to f/12.5 to denote the widest usable aperture. Mine was marked f/12.5, but opened up wider - this made the image very soft and glowy..
    No, the two are quite different. The 9.5 has eight elements cemented in pairs, half in front, half in back. The 12.5 is four separate elements, only if I am remembering right.....like the 6.8 in smaller formats.
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    Re: Wide angle for 8x10

    I have a 159 Wolly EWA and it sees more service on the 5x7, but it will cover 8x10 with very little wiggle room if required.
    A 165 Super Angulon is a pretty impressive lens and if the front standards of your camera can support a cast iron manhole cover it should have no problem with the SA
    IIRC the 120 Nikon SWA will cover 8x10 with no wiggle room.

    The widest I use on my 8x10 these days are a 250 Kodak WF Ektar and a 240 Schneider G Claron.
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    Re: Wide angle for 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by mdarnton View Post
    No, the two are quite different. The 9.5 has eight elements cemented in pairs, half in front, half in back. The 12.5 is four separate elements, only if I am remembering right.....like the 6.8 in smaller formats.
    Interesting - so what would be the difference in terms of performance? And why the change?
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    Re: Wide angle for 8x10

    I think it's pretty much what I said: one is wide, one is sharp but over a smaller angle. They pushed the 9.5 for banquet work, and said it had a sharp, flat field used wide open, but didn't suggest it for anything else, actually.

    The 1935 Wollensak catalog #33 at cameraeccentric.com says a lot about the 9.5. The 1940s catalog #43 comments that the 12.5 starts sharp but gets wider and better stopped down.

    The 9.5 diagram is easy to find, but I don't remember where I found the 12.5 diagram.
    Thanks, but I'd rather just watch:
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    Re: Wide angle for 8x10

    That to me sounds like the IC is restricted in the 9.5 version - meaning, does it cover 8x10? You mentioned you bought it for your Intrepid - but not which format. I assumed 8x10. If so, you'll have to tell us how it performs. I am certain the one I had was the f/12.5 version.
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    Re: Wide angle for 8x10

    I see 120mm Nikkor Wide angle lenses from $325-600 range often. They cover 8x10 and give good service.
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    Re: Wide angle for 8x10

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    https://web.archive.org/web/20180424...0/222932797909 should just cover 8x10. This one has separations. They're not that rare, turn up more on ebay.fr than on ebay.com. And they're usually fairly inexpensive.

    David Goldfarb, who posts more on photrio.com than here, has one that Steve Grimes remounted in an Ilex #3. Front-mounting may be a better option. The 120/14 is in the same barrel as my 60/14, which can be stuffed into the front of a Ilex #3. I had to have the shutter's rear tube truncated to get full coverage, expect that this would be necessary for a 120 on 8x10.
    This is very good advice. To-day would be a excellent day to check. Perhaps there is even a 135mm perigraphe!

    Dan's reference applies to the early version - it may apply to the 20th century faster version.
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    Re: Wide angle for 8x10

    I also vote for the Nikon SW 120.

    The SW 150 can be a better choice but it's scarce an expensive. Cropping a bit the 8x10 SW 120 shot we have same framing than with the 150, and some "movements".

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