Lens to produce vignetted images on 4x5

[Steve Williams_812]

Options are always good.

Just checked your link. I like the winterized scooter. I have ridden year round in Chicago, then it was an R75/5 long and short frame. Windjammer and bags. Now my circulation is poor. Cold extremities getting colder.

Yet, I rode my Honda PCX 150 yesterday and hope my left hand can use the clutch on my Sporty soon.

20 years ago I rode in Chicago Scooter rallies on a Velosolex just to out-nerd them. The only way to keep them in sight was to never stop, full blast at 18 mph at all times. And pedalling! Exercise.

200+ bikes so far. I want a Svartpilen, but to do that I need to sell a camera.

I hope I find the option I'm chasing...

Regarding the Vespa -- over the years I've configured it to accommodate my winter riding as well as the relentless reminders of aging and cold weather. I've begun to understand why people move south when they get older. The apron on the scooter, something people had been telling me to get for years, is a minor miracle. It has made riding down to 15F simple. With a bit more gear I can ride comfortably to -10F. Snow tires help in the snow but more and more I avoid it.

Left hand limitations -- did you have a mishap? I used to enjoy shifting but as I mellow I'm content to just twist the throttle. For a few years I had been reviewing motorcycles and got my fill. But man, the Husqvarna would be something that would sake my youthful memories of motorcycles and the Baja 500. The Svartpilen with its aggressive tires get those idea flowing. Hope you find a way to add it to your list!

[Steve Williams_812]

One thing to consider is how abrupt you want the fall-off to be...

With IC's different f-stops (from wide open to tiny closed down) will change this, as well as the shades/masks suggested... For IC effects, a lens with little obstructions on the edges but a clear path to the lens/iris will create more gradual edges from natural falloff rather than a abrupt line from obstructions at the barrel edges etc...

There's also burning in the edges while printing by cutting a card with a "sunray" or "explosion" shape, a piece of coat hanger as a handle, and keep it moving in front of the printing paper while enlarging for a few timer pops...

Emmet Gowin did quite a few LF vignetted image series, and HP Robinson developed a style for "naturalistic" pictorialism using this as an element of "natural" seeing around this...

Steve K

I tend to like the abrupt fall off from the barrel. Need to experiment more though.

When I was in school Emmet Gowin visited our MFA group. He was a friend of one of the professors. He presented work and talked about his processes. At that point he was doing his aerial work but brought along some of his early family stuff as well. It was the first time I had seen someone so masterful and passionate about the printing process. He showed several examples of images from first proof to final print, something that comprised a dozen or more print steps including toning. I thought the first proof was great. The final print was a revelation though.

As our group of seven students was huddled around the table looking at pictures and talking his wife Edith had come in the room. So strange to see her in the prints years earlier and in the flesh at the same time. I'm grateful for that day.

[Tin Can]

I hope I find the option I'm chasing...

Regarding the Vespa -- over the years I've configured it to accommodate my winter riding as well as the relentless reminders of aging and cold weather. I've begun to understand why people move south when they get older. The apron on the scooter, something people had been telling me to get for years, is a minor miracle. It has made riding down to 15F simple. With a bit more gear I can ride comfortably to -10F. Snow tires help in the snow but more and more I avoid it.

Left hand limitations -- did you have a mishap? I used to enjoy shifting but as I mellow I'm content to just twist the throttle. For a few years I had been reviewing motorcycles and got my fill. But man, the Husqvarna would be something that would sake my youthful memories of motorcycles and the Baja 500. The Svartpilen with its aggressive tires get those idea flowing. Hope you find a way to add it to your list!

Just a weak paw, perhaps damaged from years of very stiff clutches and a crash until I learned to fiddle them better. Arthritus set in some time ago.

My obsession with bikes began in Douglasville, Pa. In 1964 my brother bought a gorgous all white Norton Electra. I was 13 and way too small to get it off and back on the centerstand. So every time everybody was gone, I would use the electric start and warm it up. Never rode it. 12 years later I bought one. It tossed me down in a speed wobble. I broke this left wrist in 2 spots and 3 in my right foot. The bike was still idling on it's side, totally undamaged. I rode it the next day in big casts. Then I bought a better bike.

[Pere Casals]

You can also make the vignet in the printing process, after exposing paper you remove the negative and you expose again while dodging the center. With that you can obtain "periscope" prints also from older regular negatives.

[Mark Sampson]

I once had an 80/2.8 Schneider Xenotar in a Compur shutter. Probably the same lens as used on a Rollei TLR. It gave the effect you're looking for on 4x5. I sold it on this forum some years back, but any similar lens might do the job.
IIRC Mr. Gowin used a 90/6.8 Schneider Angulon on an 8x10 camera, but i'm not certain of that.

[Drew Bedo]

Any of the Oscilloscope lenses will do what you want.

These are the "Oscillo Raptars and Oscillo Paragons. Typically these are 75mm f/1.9 . Makes nearly a 4" circle on 4x5. Typically these are 75mm f/1.9. Some say they are a bit soft . . .you mqay want that. Generally $50-%100 on e-bay.

This is a full frame shot on 4x5.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/279836...posted-public/

[Dan Fromm]

There are still cheap Elgeet 'scope camera lenses in Ilex 3. If, that is, you're not a brand snob.

[ic-racer]

This is an example of a 75mm Horseman/Topcor 6x9cm Format lens on 4x5" film. Specs show image circle of 120mm for that lens.

[Drew Bedo]

Thinking cheap and out of the box a bit . . . .

About any lens from a 120/220 roll film in 6x6 cm format camera should give the effect looked for by the OP. Some lens/shutter salvaged from a 6x6 folder with a blown out bellows should work and be truly inexpensive.

[Dan Fromm]

Wow.

I just looked up these Oscilloscope lenses on e-Bay again after years. The prices have exploded. What is driving that?

Ignorant fools spending money foolishly.

To be kinder and less judgmental, people who value what lens abuse -- repurposing lenses for applications very different than the ones they were designed for -- can do to image quality.