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    Re: Achieving this look with movements or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pere Casals View Post
    See the marked areas, beyond the bad quality of the posted image, this shows clearly that an (inverted) tilt was used, IMHO, also some swing, look at the base of the tree at right....

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    So much of the interpretation depends on where the leaves are at top left. They could be near the same plane as the man, or not. If swing was used, there would be a gradient in focus across the grass, and I don't see that. Without swing, and reverse (upward tilt), then I would expect more of the upper foliage to be in focus.

    The photo quality is so low, it is hard to get much beyond a guess. I wonder why reverse tilt and swing, or any odd combination of movements, would be used in such a scene, and come up with an odd and distracting field of focus. But that's photography, of course.

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    Re: Achieving this look with movements or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by mmerig View Post
    So much of the interpretation depends on where the leaves are at top left. They could be near the same plane as the man, or not.
    Well, to me, leaves are at top left are way closer to the camera, but also the base of both trees are way sharper than the upper parts, indicating that the plane is tilted.

    To me there is no doubt...

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    Re: Achieving this look with movements or not?

    I'd say any tilt was very minimal, probably none at all. Just shallow depth of field from a wide aperture.
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    Re: Achieving this look with movements or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamessrogers View Post
    Thanks for all the feedback all, I guess I just need to get out there and actually make some photographs and find out for myself.
    Ttwenty years ago at the Sante Fe Workshops, an instructor said something like, "The ground glass is truth."

    With that in mind, I frequently place a focusing target in the composition to check DOF and plane of focus by moving it around.
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    Re: Achieving this look with movements or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamessrogers View Post
    I'm a huge fan of the work of Bryan Schutmaat (www.bryanschutmaat.com/) and really love the look he creates using his 4x5 camera.
    Without wishing to seem a boor why not contact him directly ??? [schutmaat@gmail.com]
    Any responses from this (or any other) forum will be guesses or assumptions - albeit knowledgeable.
    To know whether the effect you see was deliberate or 'just chance'; and any other information you need to contact Bryan Schutmaat
    regards
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    Re: Achieving this look with movements or not?

    shot wide open .. not much in the movment department ..
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    rather than writing him ...

    why not stick some film or paper in a film holder
    and make a similar exposure using a 150 or 250mm lens and fiddle around
    until you see what you want in the ground glass and take it..
    a lot of what people do now isn't even camera movements
    but photoshoppery ... or easily take a 35mm exposure and adjust
    the enlarging surface and lens plane and do the same thing ..
    anything can happen these days ..

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    Re: Achieving this look with movements or not?

    He uses a 135mm Xenotar and shoots pretty wide open.


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    Re: Achieving this look with movements or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    ...
    but photoshoppery ...
    A possibility ! Thanks.
    Technically and artistically wise, comments on a virtual on screen digital photo, is not like commenting on a true real photograph in ones hand!
    We usually forget this fact because of the functional(tree, man, drink, grass, etc...) representation of both, are the same.
    Each product from each medium will retain the best truly info, if represented by a tool from the same medium.
    For discussion and knowledge exchange purposes, no matter which medium is the photo from, as long as it presented with "true" information.
    Just another 2c opinion.

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