Symmar 240 5.6 (convertible)

[Janko Belaj]

Excuse me for double checking and asking what can be find in many tables on LF sites, but I just have to be sure: will Schneider-Kreuznach Symmar (convertible) 240mm (+420mm) f=1:5.6 cover 8x10? It should, but I have been told from one slightly more experienced user that it "won't cover (good)"... (and that it would be much better if I buy his 300mm Symmar!). Is that a catch (his trial to sell me a bigger lens) or is that true?Tnx, Janko.

[Ole Tjugen]

Schneider gives an image circle of 336mm at f:16 for this lens. 8x10" needs 310mm. With Schneider's notoriously narrow stated image circles, I'd say it covers with plenty of movements for landscape photography.

At least mine does

[Armin Seeholzer]

Hi Janko

It will cover but not by much so better would be Symmar S or APO Symmar wich have about 1 cm more covering power. Or of course the 300mm would be even better.
Good luck!

[Paddy Quinn]

Jeol Sternfeld's standard lens is a 240mm Symmar S (in the specs only 1mm mor of coverage, not 1cm? and that's at f22 not f16) - he seems to do pretty well with it.

[Mike Gudzinowicz]

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Janko,

You probably would be better off with the 300 mm lens. Specs for "normal" lenses
in the 240 to 305 mm range are given below. It's likely that this will be one
of your more frequently used lenses, so I'd suggest that you find one which will
allow considerable movement.

Mike

Focal Aperture Model E/G Shutter Rise/Fall/Shift
length inches; (cm)
240 mm f/6.8 Kyvyx APO-Kyvytar n.a. 3 2.9, 3.3; (7.4, 8.4)
240 mm f/6.8 Schneider Symmar 6/2 n.a. 2.0, 2.4; (5.1, 6.1)
240 mm f/9 Computar F9 6/4 3 1.4, 1.7; (3.6, 4.3)
240 mm f/5.6 Rodenstock APO Sironar S 6/4 3 1.4, 1.7; (3.6, 4.3)
240 mm f/5.6 Schneider APO Symmar 6/4 1 0.9, 1.1; (2.3, 2.8)
240 mm f/5.6 Calumet Caltar II 6/4 3 0.8, 1.0; (2.0, 2.5)
240 mm f/8 Docter Apo-Germinar W 8/8 3 0.8, 1.0; (2.0, 2.5)
240 mm f/5.6 Sinar Sinaron S n.a. 3 0.8, 1.0; (2.0, 2.5)
240 mm f/6.8 Goerz Golden Dagor n.a. n.a. 0.6, 0.8; (1.5, 2.0)
240 mm f/5.6 Calumet Caltar S n.a. n.a. 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
240 mm f/5.6 Calumet Caltar SII n.a. n.a. 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
240 mm f/9 Fujinon AS 6/4 0 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
240 mm f/6.8 Goerz Gold Dot Dagor n.a. n.a. 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
240 mm f/5.6 Nikkor W 6/4 3 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
240 mm f/5.6 Rodenstock APO Sironar N 6/4 3 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
240 mm f/5.6 Rodenstock Sironar 6/4 3 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
240 mm f/5.6 Rodenstock Sironar N 6/4 3 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
240 mm f/5.6 Schneider Symmar 6/4 n.a. 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
240 mm f/5.6 Schneider Symmar S 6/4 3 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
240 mm f/9 Schneider Graphic Claron 6/2 n.a. 0.2, 0.2; (0.5, 0.5)
250 mm f/6.3 Kodak Wide Field Ektar 4/4 n.a. 3.3, 3.8; (8.4, 9.7)
250 mm f/6.8 Fujinon W 6/5 1 1.9, 2.3; (4.8, 5.8)
250 mm f/6.3 Fujinon CM-W 6/6 1 0.1, 0.1; (0.3, 0.3)
270 mm f/6.8 Kyvyx APO-Kyvytar n.a. 3 6.1, 6.6; (15.5, 16.8)
270 mm f/9 Computar F9 6/4 3 2.3, 2.7; (5.8, 6.9)
270 mm f/6.8 Goerz Gold Dot Dagor n.a. n.a. 1.6, 1.9; (4.1, 4.8)
270 mm f/6.8 Goerz Golden Dagor n.a. n.a. 1.5, 1.7; (3.8, 4.3)
270 mm f/9 Schneider Graphic Claron 6/2 n.a. 1.2, 1.4; (3.0, 3.6)
270 mm f/9 Schneider G Claron 6/4 1 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
273 mm f/6.8 Goerz Dagor 6/2 n.a. 4.6, 5.1; (11.7, 13.0)
300 mm f/6.8 Schneider Symmar 6/2 n.a. 4.2, 4.7; (10.7, 11.9)
300 mm f/5.6 Rodenstock APO Sironar 7/5 3 3.9, 4.4; (9.9, 11.2)
300 mm f/5.6 Rodenstock APO Sironar W 7/5 3 3.9, 4.4; (9.9, 11.2)
300 mm f/5.6 Sinar Sinaron WS n.a. 3 3.9, 4.4; (9.9, 11.2)
300 mm f/5.6 Rodenstock APO Sironar S 6/4 3 3.0, 3.4; (7.6, 8.6)
300 mm f/5.6 Calumet Caltar II 6/4 3 2.6, 3.0; (6.6, 7.6)
300 mm f/5.6 Schneider APO Symmar 6/4 3 2.6, 3.0; (6.6, 7.6)
300 mm f/5.6 Sinar Sinaron S n.a. 3 2.6, 3.0; (6.6, 7.6)
300 mm f/5.6 Calumet Caltar HR 6/4 3 2.4, 2.8; (6.1, 7.1)
300 mm f/5.6 Calumet Caltar S n.a. n.a. 2.4, 2.8; (6.1, 7.1)
300 mm f/5.6 Calumet Caltar SII n.a. n.a. 2.4, 2.8; (6.1, 7.1)
300 mm f/9 Fujinon AS 6/4 1 2.4, 2.8; (6.1, 7.1)
300 mm f/5.6 Fujinon NWS 6/6 n.a. 2.4, 2.8; (6.1, 7.1)
300 mm f/5.6 Fujinon W 6/4 3 2.4, 2.8; (6.1, 7.1)
300 mm f/5.6 Nikkor W 6/4 3 2.4, 2.8; (6.1, 7.1)
300 mm f/5.6 Schneider Symmar 6/4 n.a. 2.4, 2.8; (6.1, 7.1)
300 mm f/5.6 Fujinon CM-W 6/5 3 2.2, 2.6; (5.6, 6.6)
300 mm f/5.6 Schneider Symmar S 6/4 3 2.2, 2.6; (5.6, 6.6)
300 mm f/5.6 Rodenstock APO Sironar N 6/4 3 2.1, 2.4; (5.3, 6.1)
300 mm f/5.6 Rodenstock Sironar N 6/4 3 2.1, 2.4; (5.3, 6.1)
300 mm f/8.5 Fujinon C 4/4 1 1.6, 1.9; (4.1, 4.8)
300 mm f/8.5 Fujinon CS 4/4 1 1.6, 1.9; (4.1, 4.8)
300 mm f/5.6 Rodenstock Sironar n.a. 3 1.6, 1.9; (4.1, 4.8)
300 mm f/6.3 Congo Commercial 4/3 3 1.1, 1.3; (2.8, 3.3)
300 mm f/6.3 Osaka Normal 4/3 3 1.1, 1.3; (2.8, 3.3)
300 mm f/4.5 Schneider Xenar 4/3 n.a. 1.1, 1.3; (2.8, 3.3)
300 mm f/5.6 Sinar Macro Sinaron n.a. 3 1.1, 1.3; (2.8, 3.3)
300 mm f/5.6 Calumet Pro n.a. n.a. 0.7, 0.9; (1.8, 2.3)
300 mm f/4.5 Jenoptik Jena T 4/3 n.a. 0.7, 0.9; (1.8, 2.3)
300 mm f/5.6 Schneider Xenar 4/3 3 0.7, 0.9; (1.8, 2.3)
300 mm f/9 Rodenstock Geronar 3/3 1 0.6, 0.7; (1.5, 1.8)
300 mm f/9 Nikkor M 4/3 1 0.2, 0.3; (0.5, 0.8)
300 mm f/4.5 Zeiss Tessar (Jena) 4/3 n.a. 0.2, 0.3; (0.5, 0.8)
300 mm f/6.8 Goerz Golden Dagor 6/2 n.a. 0.1, 0.1; (0.3, 0.3)
302 mm f/4.5 Wollensak Raptar Ser 2 4/3 n.a. 1.5, 1.7; (3.8, 4.3)
305 mm f/6.8 Goerz Dagor 6/2 n.a. 5.8, 6.4; (14.7, 16.3)
305 mm f/9 Computar F9 6/4 3 3.9, 4.3; (9.9, 10.9)
305 mm f/6.8 Kyvyx APO-Kyvytar n.a. 3 2.9, 3.4; (7.4, 8.6)
305 mm f/6.8 Goerz Golden Dagor 6/2 n.a. 2.6, 3.0; (6.6, 7.6)
305 mm f/9 Schneider Graphic Claron 6/2 n.a. 2.2, 2.6; (5.6, 6.6)
305 mm f/6.3 Kodak Commercial Ektar n.a. n.a. 1.5, 1.8; (3.8, 4.6)
305 mm f/9 Schneider G Claron 6/4 1 1.5, 1.8; (3.8, 4.6)
305 mm f/4.5 Ilex New Paragon n.a. n.a. 0.7, 0.9; (1.8, 2.3)
305 mm f/6.3 Ilex New Paragon n.a. n.a. 0.7, 0.9; (1.8, 2.3)
305 mm f/6.3 Ilex Acutar 4/3 n.a. 0.5, 0.7; (1.3, 1.8)
305 mm f/6.3 Kodak Commercial Ektar 4/3 n.a. 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
305 mm f/4.5 Kodak Ektar 4/3 n.a. 0.5, 0.6; (1.3, 1.5)
305 mm f/3.5 Zeiss Tessar 4/3 n.a. 0.4, 0.4; (1.0, 1.0)
305 mm f/4.5 Zeiss Tessar 4/3 n.a. 0.4, 0.4; (1.0, 1.0)
305 mm f/6.3 Zeiss Tessar 4/3 n.a. 0.4, 0.4; (1.0, 1.0)
305 mm f/8 Goerz Gotar 4/4 n.a. 0.2, 0.2; (0.5, 0.5)
(Note: Dagor specs are aperture dependent, and the f/stop usually isn't given.)
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