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    Re: What finish did Deardorff use in the 50s-60s?

    I'll be the first person to say I'm not a woodworker or finish specialist, but I owned an old Gundlach Korona 8x10 that had a crazed/alligatored surface. I gave it a very light sanding and applied a coat of Daly's Oil Finish with a rag. It filled in all the minute cracks and dried hard as nails. Looked great, took only a fraction of the time of a strip-and-refinish job, which in my hands would have looked terrible.

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    I'm 100% the wrong guy to argue with on that question. I've consulted on hundreds of millions of dollars of historical restoration, and have even been the primary supplier for the equipment and finishes. I even sold the shellac used to seal the correction lenses to the mounts on the Hubbell telescope. This hasn't crazed yet in space because there's no oxygen - despite all the UV. Every floor refinisher in the US and Europe knows how easy shellac is to remove with alcohol. It's dispersed in alcohol to begin with. Are you confusing it with lacquer? There are a number of kinds of lacquer, some of which also dissolve in strong alcohol. Varnishes are yet another category.

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    Re: What finish did Deardorff use in the 50s-60s?

    Peter, Daly's products are hard to find outside the NW. I used to carry the entire selection down here, but would need to ask if they have it back in stock in the warehouse. The main store is being completely remodeled due to a fire last Fall. Daly's Profin is an excellent tung-urethane oil finish, but they have several other options suitable for wooden cameras. Cheapo brands like Minwax will water-spot.

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    Re: What finish did Deardorff use in the 50s-60s?

    2 clicks...https://www.amazon.com/Dalys-Profin-.../dp/B000SL45HU

    another click https://www.amazon.com/stores/node/1...eb_14103127011


    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Wiley View Post
    Peter, Daly's products are hard to find outside the NW. I used to carry the entire selection down here, but would need to ask if they have it back in stock in the warehouse. The main store is being completely remodeled due to a fire last Fall. Daly's Profin is an excellent tung-urethane oil finish, but they have several other options suitable for wooden cameras. Cheapo brands like Minwax will water-spot.

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    Re: What finish did Deardorff use in the 50s-60s?

    Daly's will ship from their own store, but it's technically illegal to ship anything more than a qt into Calif - more than enough for a camera. There was a 5 million dollar remodel on a Frank Lloyd Wright house here recently using a variety of Daly's and Sikkens products. My personal touch-up formula for my mahogany Ebony folder is a special blend of Cetol 1 and Cetol 23.

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    Re: What finish did Deardorff use in the 50s-60s?

    I'm still pissed Frank Lloyd Wright was dug up from Wisconsin and moved to Arizona by his second wife.

    I used to visit Frank at his nearly impossible to find grave near Taliesin. It was a good place to stop, where nobody noticed and not part of any tour.

    Beautiful location.

    No headstone, flat signature ironwork lost in grass.

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    Re: What finish did Deardorff use in the 50s-60s?

    Frank seemed to be one of those brilliant men who could be a jerk in real life. His roofs were infamous for leakage. A more prolific architect in this area was Bernard Maybeck, who was an utter incompetent when it came to structural engineering. But his most famous student, Julia Morgan, was brilliant both structurally and esthetically. I've refinished quite a few of here buildings, and even lived temporarily in a couple of them in exchange for labor. She was also in charge of building Hearst Castle, party hideaway of another famous jerk.

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    Re: What finish did Deardorff use in the 50s-60s?

    John - a good product which is probably available somewhere in Fresno would be Zar Wipe-on Tung oil, also a urethane blend. Don't fall for any of that "pure tung oil" nonsense; driers need the urethane component. But none of this will repair a surface starting to peel. That scenario is more involved.

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    Re: What finish did Deardorff use in the 50s-60s?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Wiley View Post
    John - a good product which is probably available somewhere in Fresno would be Zar Wipe-on Tung oil, also a urethane blend. Don't fall for any of that "pure tung oil" nonsense; driers need the urethane component. But none of this will repair a surface starting to peel. That scenario is more involved.
    Yea, the "poly-oils" are pretty good, as the oils penetrate the wood nicely (bringing out the grain/surface well), but also the top coat is very durable...

    Oils alone are sometimes like using steroids/ they look great when first applied, but dull out slower or faster, so even a week after application, a big change happens... And another coat has to be rubbed in sooner or later... And too much oil can loosen stuff pressed into the wood (like metal frets on guitar necks, etc) or work it's way down to glue joint areas...

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    Re: What finish did Deardorff use in the 50s-60s?

    I've got tons of experience on glue-down fixes that saved many expensive doors from being fully stripped. I recently coached a contractor neighbor through redoing all his windows, doors, and hardwood trim. Looks wonderful, though a refresher coat will be due every few years. But the products involved averaged nearly a hundred bucks a gallon. A single quart would do many cameras. It can be hard to find the correct abrasives. The full selection of 3M Scotch Brite is available only in big quantities. Festool has begun releasing their even better Granat pads in small paks as well as large. I keep my own private stash - mostly free samples.

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