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    Thanks, Randy!

    I just sold a couple of cameras I refurbished on eBay, for more than I thought they might go for. I'm seriously thinking about getting a mini-milling machine. If I do, options for the camera build open up, though the time to build it does, too, since I have zero experience with mills, and not a whole lot of knowledge. I need to wait until I know the buyers are happy before I can spend the funds, so it will be a couple of weeks before I buy the wood for the holders (or the mini-mill). But I can mess around with sketching out ideas.

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    Glad to help Paul.

    I hope you document your project here.

    Consider looking at a Router Forum and CNC machine kits. They is a lot of DIY innovation going on. I have a tiny mill/lathe that is not very good at what we need. Too small.

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    Yeah, the CNC machines I might be able to afford would be too small, just like computer-guided telescopes for my astronomy habit are too small for my liking. But I just found one of these on Craigslist, bought by the seller to do one job, and now better than new since it's already been set up and put into good, usable shape (I've read they take a lot of tweaking right out of the box). And it's half the price of new, if you include what shipping would cost (though I do have to drive most of the way across Wisconsin to pick it up). The thing weighs 126 pounds, so shipping would be mighty spendy. I know I'll need to spend some more for the 'tooling' needed to use it, but it comes with some.

    I do plan to document the build here (but it will be slow-going!) Folks here have been very generous with answering my questions, and with sharing a lot of deep knowledge. I'd like to add what I can; not deep, but helpful for folks who might want to try to learn from what I do. Probably mostly from my mistakes.

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    Paul, I have a mini mill. Most of what I read pertained to metal working. I've used my standard pouter bits in it and it works great for milling wood. It is a good investment and not hard to learn at all.

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    Re: ANSI Standard for 14x17 holder seems odd

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Fitzgerald View Post
    I've used my standard pouter bits in it
    Careful, now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Fitzgerald View Post
    Paul, I have a mini mill. Most of what I read pertained to metal working. I've used my standard pouter bits in it and it works great for milling wood. It is a good investment and not hard to learn at all.
    I hadn't thought about using it for wood. That's good to know!

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    BTW, I'm always careful.

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    Are you watching Keith Canham on FB?

    Let's see if this embed works. Deleted..

    Nope! but look up and follow K. B. Canham on FB and watch how he makes his very nice cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    Are you watching Keith Canham on FB?

    Let's see if this embed works. Deleted..

    Nope! but look up and follow K. B. Canham on FB and watch how he makes his very nice cameras.
    Cool; I'll check it out!

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    Re: ANSI Standard for 14x17 holder seems odd

    Hi Everyone
    I tried to buy the ANSI standard for film holders from official source but they would not provide it to me, as it has been withdrawn. I then sourced it from a less official Asian source, but still had to pay for it!

    So now for the good of the photographic community, attached are the 4 most relevant pages of the ANSI IT3-108-1998 standard. The other pages are front cover, index, introduction, forward which are not technical.

    I hope it is useful for you all.

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