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  1. #11

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    Re: Schneider xenotar 4.5/27cm info needed

    Nice, would be interested to see pics of that. The ebay link doesn't work anymore. I wonder if it's typical 5/4 construction like regular Xenotars.

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    Re: Schneider xenotar 4.5/27cm info needed

    If you can find the serial number there would be somewhere to start

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    Re: Schneider xenotar 4.5/27cm info needed

    Here are some pictures and the serial number is 85319.Click image for larger version. 

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    Re: Schneider xenotar 4.5/27cm info needed

    OK, 85319 was a 105/3.5 Xenar made at the start of 1924, however for serial number 8530199 there is a match. It was a batch of 1 with the note "muster" which I think translates to prototype and was made on 4 March 1964. There was another 460/4.5 just listed as Xenotar (serial 8173905) made on 2 July 1963. Couldn't find a 27cm version but I'm working from lists sorted by serial number so it is a bit of a needle in a haystack approach.

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    Re: Schneider xenotar 4.5/27cm info needed

    Paul,

    Thank you so much. I missed a number. The serial number is 8530199.

    Hugo

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    Re: Schneider xenotar 4.5/27cm info needed

    Asked the wife, she is German. The first thing that came to her mind when asked about "Muster", was sample, after some thoughts she mentioned maybe the direct translation to English would be template, but that was being quite technical.

    Mick.

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    Re: Schneider xenotar 4.5/27cm info needed

    Template or prototype is good translation for Muster for sure. (i am interested in Luftwaffe & it shows up in the documents very often...)

    Amazing lens Hugo!! I am very Photo-Envy!

    Did you ever use it? What's the size of that lens board?

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    Re: Schneider xenotar 4.5/27cm info needed

    Misko,

    Yes I used it a few years ago with a guillotine style shutter and the pictures have its own signatures due to the lens. I plan to use it more in the future as I have the right shutter box for it now. The lens board is eight inches.

    Hugo

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    Re: Schneider xenotar 4.5/27cm info needed

    Hugo, thanks for posting that. Very unique! I still wonder if it is the "real" xenotar type (5/4 design) - maybe so. It would be interesting to see what the coverage is, I am guessing it's limited by the front barrel somewhat, but probably still has great coverage anyway. Post some pics taken with it someday if you can.

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