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    Attention Please: Lotus LF & ULF users

    Attention please:
    Horrible designing of Lotus LF & ULF cameras

    My Lotus 12x20in camera's metal tripod plate dropped from the camera body. There's a little shaking when the camera was on a tripod.
    I found there's only glue between them without any metal screws to secure them.
    What hell was the designing?!
    I also contacted some Lotus camera users. I found some 5x7 Lotus cameras were same as me so far.
    Gunter Stroebele of Lotus reply was that there were old version.
    And he suggested to glue them again, or to plus screws to secure as the new versions.

    I wanna question him why there's so rediculous designing onto 5x7 and 12x20in cameras.
    It's the "famous" LOTUS.
    How did they to let such cameras went out of their company?

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    The metal tripod plate on the 12x20 Lotus body

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    Dropped

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    Only glue

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    Re: Attention Please: Lotus LF & ULF users

    Yikes! That thing definitely needs some screws securing it to the base and the tripod socket should work into the wood somehow. I can imagine the base plate letting loose during a vertical. Scary.

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    Scary, stupid, rediculous, unreal... ULF camera defect~

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    Re: Attention Please: Lotus LF & ULF users

    This would be a bad design for a 4x5" camera, but on a ULF camera it is criminal.

    I also note that the circular plate is only effectivelt resting on 1 slat and half-on on two other slats! JUst one of these two slats will be carrying most of the torque sometimes.
    I dare not ask the thickness of these slats!

    I hope the rest of the cameras has more robust construction?

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    Re: Attention Please: Lotus LF & ULF users

    Glue AND counter-sunk screws. Several of them.
    Steve reminds of the thickness of the slats. Good point!

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    Re: Attention Please: Lotus LF & ULF users

    Which might explain why a Deardorff V11 weighs 24 pounds but at least the base plate does not fall off!

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    Re: Attention Please: Lotus LF & ULF users

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Tribe View Post
    This would be a bad design for a 4x5" camera, but on a ULF camera it is criminal.

    I also note that the circular plate is only effectivelt resting on 1 slat and half-on on two other slats! JUst one of these two slats will be carrying most of the torque sometimes.
    I dare not ask the thickness of these slats!

    I hope the rest of the cameras has more robust construction?
    Such design was awful and the reply from Lotus Company was terrible.
    The slats' thickness is 17.5cm. But for the sinking of the metal plate, they are thinner as 13.5cm and 9.5cm (maybe 7.5cm).

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    Re: Attention Please: Lotus LF & ULF users

    I've built several ULF cameras. That is one place not to scrimp on to try and save weight. I've always used a solid bottom bed. The entire camera relies on that contact point.

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    Re: Attention Please: Lotus LF & ULF users

    Quote Originally Posted by Luis-F-S View Post
    Which might explain why a Deardorff V11 weighs 24 pounds but at least the base plate does not fall off!
    Wow. Only 24#?

    My Deardorff Marine V11 does not have any metal base plate and still tips the scale at 32#. The positive side of this statement is that one you get it on a tripod, I find it to be very stable even in gusty wind conditions.

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    Re: Attention Please: Lotus LF & ULF users

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Kadillak View Post
    Wow. Only 24#?

    My Deardorff Marine V11 does not have any metal base plate and still tips the scale at 32#.
    Is it true that the Navy Object Class Code identifies it as an anchor?
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