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    Re: Linhof wide angle device - what's the scoop?

    Good that you are using a dedicated custom camera!!! Will make it MUCH easier to use...

    But if you consider adding a completely drop bed feature on the Linhof in the future, what worked on my old style Tech III was on the top of the bed support struts is the tip that prevents the bed from falling completely, but with my model, it only required siight re-rounding the front of the tip (about a mm) with a file, where it would just slip through the rivet & pin assy if you pushed the strut inwards (against the outward spring pressure), and it slides out, but for normal bed opening, the outward spring pressure would still stop the bed from falling as there is still most all of the stop intact... The bit that is filed was the tiny little corner tip point very slightly rounded, top forward end of stop... I don't know if this will work with later models, but drop the bed all the way down, and see what is stopping it, and see if there is just a little tip there in the way... Fairly easy mod... (Remove RF cam before use, or get an old, short 90mm cam and move focusing track forward out of the way so the cam is free of it before dropping bed completely to avoid damage...)

    If you try this, only remove one strut at a time, to maintain alignment of the bed while doing this...

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    Re: Linhof wide angle device - what's the scoop?

    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb View Post
    Nice looking Veriwide adaptation! I was considering doing such a thing with spare Sinar parts, but this situation with the 47 S-A XL and the helical fell into place sooner, so the Sinar odds n ends are still in the drawer.
    I do have a Sinar Alpina that appears capable of using the 47mm S-A XL to make a 'handy cam', but I not like monorails.

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    Re: Linhof wide angle device - what's the scoop?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jac@stafford.net View Post
    Wow! I am not smart enough to even imagine how one would properly modify a focusing cam. Any more tips for us? Is it something as simple as following an other cam as a template? IOW, linear?

    If you search my old posts, I have discussed cutting cams for Linhofs and TRF Graphics. My advice now, is to stay away from Linhof and save your money for lenses, film, travel, models, etc.

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    Re: Linhof wide angle device - what's the scoop?

    Just throw in this, although it's about a 65mm SA..I once had a 65 SA (well still have it actually) on a "Schneckengang (sp?)" or a helical focussing mount on a Linhof board. I used it on my Tech III by placing it on the inner rail, drop the bed to max, and extend this weird technical back about 1 cm backwards (I had a piece of plastic, 1cm square with me which I used as a spacer). I could than focus with the helical quite easily (have long thin fingers though)..it was a bit cumbersome to set up, but it worked..

    The 65 SA now lives on a recessed lens board on my Linhof Color..

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    Re: Linhof wide angle device - what's the scoop?

    Jac,

    I have a wide-angle focus device (thingy, board, whatever you want to call it). It works pretty well with my 58mm XL. However, because of where the focus adapter needs to be placed on the bed, the 47mm XL doesn't work. I have used the 47mm XL on my Linhof MT simply on a flat, offset board and found a good hyperfocal point inside the box and the bed dropped all the way. It's a pain but it does work...kind of.

    I will note here as well that if I use a center filter on the 58mm XL, it restricts the extension due to impacting the focus knob.

    Also, it's a pain in the butt to find the proper mini Linhof boards to fit the lens. A lot of the Copal 0 boards I found were not properly offset. They seem to have made a lot of variants for different lens types over the years.

    The Linhof is definitely not a good ultra wide angle platform (wider than 72-90mm). I've also ran into issues with large 100mm GND filters even on normal wide angles due to impacting the focus rails.

    The 47mm XL is definitely going to live on my new Mercury camera going forward. I hadn't used it in a long time due to so many problems with camera compatibility. It only really worked well on my Toyo GII but I'm not lugging that thing around.
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    Re: Linhof wide angle device - what's the scoop?

    One has to give Linhof credit for trying to make such a device, and for it being as successful as it is. The Technika design goes back to what, the early 1960s? And even in the late 1980s the widest lens, available new, that covered 4x5 was a 65mm. So if it doesn't work with a much shorter lens, oh well, nice try anyway. No surprise that photographers have found solutions that work better.
    Kind of reminds me of my Visoflex II that turns a Leica rangefinder into an SLR- I call that 'an elegant kludge'. Beautifully made, and it works, sort of, for a few purposes, but has significant drawbacks too.

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    Re: Linhof wide angle device - what's the scoop?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sampson View Post
    One has to give Linhof credit for trying to make such a device, and for it being as successful as it is. The Technika design goes back to what, the early 1960s?
    If we concentrate on the origins of the Super Technika, it is more likely 1946 when the rangefinder became an option.

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    Re: Linhof wide angle device - what's the scoop?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sampson View Post
    One has to give Linhof credit for trying to make such a device, and for it being as successful as it is. The Technika design goes back to what, the early 1960s? And even in the late 1980s the widest lens, available new, that covered 4x5 was a 65mm. So if it doesn't work with a much shorter lens, oh well, nice try anyway. No surprise that photographers have found solutions that work better.
    Kind of reminds me of my Visoflex II that turns a Leica rangefinder into an SLR- I call that 'an elegant kludge'. Beautifully made, and it works, sort of, for a few purposes, but has significant drawbacks too.
    The Technica goes back to prior to WW II. The war time Technica Medzin was the direct descendant of the post WW II models.

    And your Visoflex was actually made by Novoflex. They also made the prism finders for Rollei and Hasselblad as well as the bellows for most European 35mm and 21/4 SLR cameras.

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    Re: Linhof wide angle device - what's the scoop?

    Least expensive, but useful.. . .

    I was having a problem rounding up my things when shooting outdoors. Lens caps , loup etc. Lost one or two not-cheap-to-replace items in the tall grass through inattention when packing up.

    Finally fixed that by gwetting a vbatch of Crown Royal bags off of The-Bay for <$1.00 each. If there was an empty bag left over whenever I thought it was time to close the bag, I knew that something was still out and had to be looked for.

    I still use the CR bags, but the lenses now get packed into Photobackpacker boxers. In practice the principle is the same.
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