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    Lens flare in a Velostigmat W.A. Is that normal?

    Hello, I made this picture using a Velostigmat W.A 6 1/4 inches set at f/16. Film format is 18 x 24 cm (whole plate). The lens is not coated but the glass looks like new, no scratches, no fungos...just like new. The scan was made from a contact print, so there is no enlarger mediation. My question is: how does this flare look to those familiar with this lens? I know that a clear sky filtered by trees is a tough situation to any lens, but I was expecting something better than that. Am I asking too much for an old lens?

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    Re: Lens flare in a Velostigmat W.A. Is that normal?

    Check and see if the internal elements have accumulated some haze. I had that same thing on mine. Kind of wish I hadn't cleaned it!
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    Re: Lens flare in a Velostigmat W.A. Is that normal?

    Velostigmats were uncoated. After WW2 they were coated and they changed the name to Raptar. I mostly shoot uncoated lenses and generally avoid having the sun in the shot.


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    Re: Lens flare in a Velostigmat W.A. Is that normal?

    Good to know that it became a Raptar. Can we then assume that the Velostigmat is a symmetrical lens with two dublets on each side of the iris, like the Raptar? I didn't find its specific construction type.

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    Re: Lens flare in a Velostigmat W.A. Is that normal?

    A Velostigmat is a Tessar design.


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    Re: Lens flare in a Velostigmat W.A. Is that normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Two23 View Post
    A Velostigmat is a Tessar design.


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    Kent, Velostigmat is a trade name, doesn't correspond to a design type. Unfortunately Wollensak didn't publish lenses' cross-sections in their catalogs. But see http://web.archive.org/web/201701230...lensak_15.html. Ain't no triple convertible tessar types.

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    Re: Lens flare in a Velostigmat W.A. Is that normal?

    There were quite a few coated Velostigmats made before they changed the name to Raptar. I have a couple, including the coated Velostigmat f/12.5 159mm shown below. And Dan's quite right, the Velostigmat name was applied to quite a few designs.

    There's quite a bit about the Wollensak 159mm's here:

    http://www.largeformatphotography.in...m)-Extreme-W-A
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    Re: Lens flare in a Velostigmat W.A. Is that normal?

    Here's what the "Raptars" looked like in the 1950s:Click image for larger version. 

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    Re: Lens flare in a Velostigmat W.A. Is that normal?

    Alas, the EWA f/12.5 isn't included.
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    Re: Lens flare in a Velostigmat W.A. Is that normal?

    I have had several versions of the xtra wide angle, some coated, and some not. My current 12.5 is uncoated and mounted in a Betax. I try to keep the sun, and other bright light sources out of the image unless it is directly in the center. i have no problem with flare.

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