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    Re: Interesting Lerebours Counterfeit lenses?

    Very interesting, gents - but we are talking engraving practise back in 1855-60, assuming that the counterfeit is from that date.

    There are a couple of brasswork items which suggest it could have been later:

    The 2 screws mounting is common for smaller projection lenses later in the Century.

    These screws are iron and have raised heads. Early French screws used here are countersunk brass.

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    Re: Interesting Lerebours Counterfeit lenses?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Tribe View Post
    There are a couple of brasswork items which suggest it could have been later:

    The 2 screws mounting is common for smaller projection lenses later in the Century.

    These screws are iron and have raised heads. Early French screws used here are countersunk brass.

    So, it might not have been an early contemporary mass producing counterfits, but maybe someone later who had a "blank" lens sitting around and decided to get more for it. That might explain why we've not seen one of these before.


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    Re: Interesting Lerebours Counterfeit lenses?

    I'm waiting for the Cajun translations from Louisiana...
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    Re: Interesting Lerebours Counterfeit lenses?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sawyer View Post
    I'm waiting for the Cajun translations from Louisiana...
    As far as I'm concerned, don't hold your breath. I'm not interested or amused in pursuing this. Btw, I'm French born, educated, national, and resident.

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    Re: Interesting Lerebours Counterfeit lenses?

    Evidently.....

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    Re: Interesting Lerebours Counterfeit lenses?

    On the topic of counterfeits, perhaps the worst I've seen...

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-J-H-...8AAOSwSzRZQLCC
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    Re: Interesting Lerebours Counterfeit lenses?

    For $35 it would great to have as a joke.


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    Re: Interesting Lerebours Counterfeit lenses?

    The items have been relisted with some of the arguments against this being genuine, given. He suggests they are genuine articles and uses the iron screws support this. My experience is that iron/steel came later.

    In addition, he thinks the presence of quite a lot of "blooming", something I have never seen on early French lenses, is support for his opinion.

    One of the lenses has the reverse engraving Achille Frogé , Opticien Bayonne. He has added some extra detail photos, including the lens edge pencil marks which is a single S.

    Perhaps Achille Frogé is responsible?
    Last edited by Steven Tribe; 21-Jun-2017 at 11:03.

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    Re: Interesting Lerebours Counterfeit lenses?

    Hello Large Format Photography community i have finally joined! I am the guy behind the Lerebours & Secretan - is it isn't it listing. Happy to answer all questions concerning the lenses.

    Lots of interesting posts

    Matt Nunn - Apsley

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    Happy to see you appear. I think you could be a valuable resource.


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