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    Steven - attached is an 1883 article about Suter lenses...BJP


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    Re: Suter serial numbers and dates.

    Here's the link to the pdf file of the 1901 Yearbook: https://ia601401.us.archive.org/29/i...JuAAAAMAAJ.pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Tribe View Post
    For your amusement, I enclose some photos of my no. 6 400mm. You can see the Aplanat style rear housing and the original anstigmat thread for the rear cell deep down. I will check my (numerous!) Suter aplanats to see if I can find out which lens it came from.
    Yes, it's very interesting to see. By looking at it, there must have been a piece of barrel added to the original, since by looking at my lens, it only has the same thread as on the front, and is not that deep. My lens group fits just fine on the front as on the back.

    I measured my flange mounting thread, and it's almost 64mm and seems to be a 1.0mm thread, althoug I couldn't know the tolerances specified in that particular period. Maybe I can get a shop to build one for me, or look out for a flange with those characteristics, but of course not every seller documents everything to the full specs.

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    Dan - I am amazed! The only explanation I can come up with is that Suter must have gone into some kind of Hibernation for about 5 years - or manufacture on a very small scale for that period. Also surprising is the mention of the A Aplanat this early, when the only engraved A aplanats have higher serial numbers? I'll get round to adding this data in a sensible way in the table I have already started.

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    Re: Suter serial numbers and dates.

    Here's a nice example on an 8.5 x 11.5 cm Suter camera.

    https://www.kamerasammlung.ch/kamera...9#.Wcvk9VvWy73

    E. Suter Nº. 34750 Anastigmat f/6.8 135mm Serie I Nº. 1 + Pat. 21872

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    Re: Suter serial numbers and dates.

    I have an E. SUTER OPT Basel Petzval lens with WHS, Serial No 904, lens diameter ~ 52mm.

    Unfortunately only the negative element remains in the rear and as a result, the lens no longer images. No markings on the edges of any of the lenses.

    Just an FYI so the serial number is captured.

    Rudi A.

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    Re: Suter serial numbers and dates.

    I'm not sure if you're interested in a serial number that falls in the middle of your range. But here goes:

    Aplanat B No 4 10x8- serial number is 4468. "Allen Bros. sole agents."

    Richard

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    Re: Suter serial numbers and dates.

    Very interested, as Allen brothers' imports are already in the list.
    I purchased an old Suter catalogue yesterday and update when I get it - if there is relevant info!
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    Re: Suter serial numbers and dates.

    The catalogue has arrived. It is from 1902, which means it has the "new anastigmatics" included as well as the more traditional lenses from the 1890's.

    One surprise is that it includes an aplanat C, which is a 90 degree wide angled lens.

    I'll post the data pages on lenses during the next 24 hours. There is plenty on Suter cameras etc. but data only by request!

    Suter has a list of his achievements at Exhibitions and he lists them on the first page of the catalogue.
    He, too, has the early date of 1883, but most are much later.
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    Re: Suter serial numbers and dates.

    This is the description and size designations for the late Petzval series from Suter april 1901.

    Interesting that they state that irises have not replaced Waterhouse stops as they wish to maintain high speed!

    The sizes are a mixture of increasing focal lengths (Not a surprise!), but in two cases represent a faster version of the previous focal length.
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    Re: Suter serial numbers and dates.

    Interesting to see the lens in the catalog to bear the serial number 25,000 ... that's a lot of lenses in a relatively short time ...

    The lens I have is according to this list a #1 ... good to know !

    Cheers,

    Rudi A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Tribe View Post
    This is the description and size designations for the late Petzval series from Suter april 1901.

    Interesting that they state that irises have not replaced Waterhouse stops as they wish to maintain high speed!

    The sizes are a mixture of increasing focal lengths (Not a surprise!), but in two cases represent a faster version of the previous focal length.

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