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    Re: For-Sale-Wanted Rules changes coming on 3 Apr 2016

    Solutions looking for problems if you ask me. Adding complexity to a system should be justified by the improvements it brings.

    The first post has a whole lot of rules, but little explanation as to why this is any better than the current system. Is something wrong? What is it? Does this fix it?

    Yes it's *different* and maybe certain people like it more, but is it a categorical improvement? No. Just different. And with more complexity, more bureaucracy.

    But what do I know... Just been admin'ing vbulletin, drupal, and phpbb forums for over a decade, nothing to see here...
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    Re: For-Sale-Wanted Rules changes coming on 3 Apr 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by B.S.Kumar View Post
    . . . Mods, while you're doing the maintenance, can you put the notice about the number of stored messages at the top of the page, rather than the bottom? This would prompt people to clear their storage more often.

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    That would involve changing the standard coding, which then causes issues with software upgrades.

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    Re: For-Sale-Wanted Rules changes coming on 3 Apr 2016

    I'm sure it will work out fine. But I'm not going to try to read and understand all this now. I'll wait until I have to sell something. I'm sure this is most "interesting/infuriating" to people that buy and sell a lot (more than one item a month is a lot).

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    Re: For-Sale-Wanted Rules changes coming on 3 Apr 2016

    Are these rules being set up to deter trade on the forum, or encourage it? Honestly I can't tell.

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    Re: For-Sale-Wanted Rules changes coming on 3 Apr 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Nodda Duma View Post
    Are these rules being set up to deter trade on the forum, or encourage it? Honestly I can't tell.
    We encourage trade among members, even though that is not the primary focus of the forum. But, the mechanics and the associated administrative involvement also need to be workable. Our hope is that these changes will be a significant improvement.

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    Re: For-Sale-Wanted Rules changes coming on 3 Apr 2016

    So what's not 'workable' now? Seems to be working fine.
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    Re: For-Sale-Wanted Rules changes coming on 3 Apr 2016

    Seems quite sensible, it'll be far better with the FS/FT separated from the WTB.

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    Re: For-Sale-Wanted Rules changes coming on 3 Apr 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by fishbulb View Post
    So what's not 'workable' now? Seems to be working fine.
    You might benefit from reading the following threads:

    Upcoming changes for the FS/WTB sub-forum, Part I


    Upcoming changes in the FS/WTB forum, Part II

    It should be remembered that the LFPF is a free resource, operated by volunteers on donated server and network resources. We don't have a paid staff monitoring activity 24x7. Thus, each violation of the rules, or perceived violation, generates one or more reported post e-mails behind the scenes that interrupt the moderators' days, each of which needs to be dealt with in a reasonable time. At the worst of times, that might reach a couple of dozen reports per day, suggesting the system is not working well. Since the For-Sale section is not the primary focus of the forum, the other alternative would be to eliminate it altogether. We'd rather not do that, since the sale of used equipment fosters growth within the LF community, and forcing people to use eBay and other paid market resources would diminish that benefit.

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    Re: For-Sale-Wanted Rules changes coming on 3 Apr 2016

    I understand the "PM sent" as it is redundant posts but what about the "clean out your mailbox" alerts? Are these type of post being considered as empty bumps? Did not read about these type of posts, please clarify as these are left to the discretion of the moderators.

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