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    What is the opposite of Velvia 50

    I cannot afford to shoot Velvia in 4x5 anymore, but found a place here that can develop E6 and a local film seller with Velvia 50 listed in 120, so thought I could get some and shoot some color with my roll film holder. But when I called they only had two rolls, and a three roll minimum for free shipping. So I thought I would mix it up, and get a couples of rolls of something muted and pastel. I think that look can be nice for some portraits and still life. I thought I would get Provia f, but maybe there is something better? I read online that color negative film processed in E6 gives muted pastels. Any thoughts on this critical issue?

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    Re: What is the opposite of Velvia 50

    If you're going to process as a neg, and want muted colors, how about Portra 160?
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    Re: What is the opposite of Velvia 50

    Astia?

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    Re: What is the opposite of Velvia 50

    Fuji 50. Very good and a great match for printing Ilfochrome Classic.

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    Re: What is the opposite of Velvia 50

    I'd say Astia if you want slides, Portra if not.

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    Re: What is the opposite of Velvia 50

    Considering he is buying from a dealer, suggestions of films no longer in production probably doesn't help.

    Portra is the obvious choice, but if you want an E-6 film, I am afraid there is only Provia as an alternative, at least until Film Ferrania gets up and running. There's also a Rollei film, Digibase CR-200, but I doubt they carry that. I have a bulk roll of it waiting in my freezer to try one day.
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    Re: What is the opposite of Velvia 50

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Meisburger View Post
    What is the opposite of Velvia 50?
    I vote for TMY-2, that is 400Tmax. Can't get much more opposite than that.

    OK, Ok, sitting back down and shutting back up now....

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    Re: What is the opposite of Velvia 50

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Watson View Post
    I vote for TMY-2, that is 400Tmax. Can't get much more opposite than that.

    OK, Ok, sitting back down and shutting back up now....
    I was going to suggest Tri-X, but I chose to resist.

    I'm glad I'm not the only wise-ass here.....

    I do think that Tim is looking for color film however and my suggestion would be Portra 160. It's a lovely film.
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    Re: What is the opposite of Velvia 50

    He's looking for a different car and you guys are trying to sell him a boat ?? In terms of extant chrome films, there just aren't many left. Velvia and Provia, that's
    about it, unless someone has something in a freezer somewhere.

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    Re: What is the opposite of Velvia 50

    It's too bad 4x5 E-6 choices are few. I used to like Kodak Ektachrome 64 EPR (that was way back when). It had a soft contrast and I saved it for snow and ice scenes where it wasn't as likely to blow out highlights. Then I liked Astia but then Fuji had other ideas.

    The OP could try Provia with a 1/3 to 1/2 stop over exposure to soften color saturation, which is the opposite of the traditional trick of under exposing to increase saturation in color transparency film.

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