Your wife is correct. It appalling - not that she's correct but the high cost of almost everything these days.Originally Posted by Bill Kumpf
Your wife is correct. It appalling - not that she's correct but the high cost of almost everything these days.
ship through paypal using usps or ups.
If I may put in my two pence worth (two cents?) from a UK perspective, I see some great items at good prices on "a certain website" coming from USA but the postage fees are sometimes 3 times the cost of the article. Even very small articles that don't need a box or need only say a padded envelope and are light in weight are priced out because of postage costs. Add to that the fact that the UK charges 20% import duty on the cost of the article including the postage and the price jumps even more. Then the UK mail company take another $20 as a "handling charge" because they have to collect the import duty and pay it to the Government.
Quick example - lensboard at a very good price $7.76 - postage quoted to UK? - $51.47 = total $59.23. Add 20% import duty = $11.84. Add handling fee in UK $19.42. Total cost for a second-hand lens board $90.49. That's 11 times what the seller is getting!
UK postage costs have gone up a lot too and I realise that postal workers/airline staff etc. have to be paid and I'm all for that. It's just making the business of buying rare or hard to find items a lot harder.
Milonian, customs duty is charged on "value", not on "price" or "cost". You may be charged duty even on gifts which did not cost you anything, but they have value to you. Gifts are exempt only up to a small limit. And value includes the shipping cost, because obviously, you cannot get that value if the lensboard is sitting in the US! Also, the price you may have paid may not be the accepted value for customs purposes. For example, if you go to the US and buy something on Black Monday at 10% of the actual, normal price, customs may still charge you duty at the actual retail price. They usually don't, because contrary to what one may think of them, they're somewhat human, too.
Shipping from the US is outrageously expensive compared to Japan. And the US Postal Service also has an unnecessarily complex system of options. For example, a 30x20x20cm box with an item value of $2,000 / 240,000 JPY costs $54.75 to ship to Japan via the cheapest option Priority Mail International 6~10 days delivery, excluding insurance. The same box shipped from Japan to the US via EMS costs $25 / 3,000 Yen, including insurance, 3~4 days delivery to most places in the US. The comparable Priority Mail Express International option costs $76.75, plus insurance.
Kumar
This pretty much sums up my experience as well. If I ever ship USPS, it's by USPS Priority Mail. I would never ship by any carrier, if it doesn't include tracking.
With that said, I've been drifting towards Fed Ex ground. Twice, USPS has lost a USPS Priority package. In the process of trying to follow up on one such package, I learned that USPS tracks only while the package is being shipped to it's destination. But, it's not tracked, if the package is being returned. Both my packages finally made it to their destination, but it took months.
The other thing I learned during one of those fiascoes, is that, if the scanner misreads the typically handwritten zip code, local USPS personnel can't make a correction. It's in the system, and THAT'S THAT! Someone can be looking at the package, they know the system's zip code is wrong, but they can only send it to some redistribution location, adding extra days (or weeks) to the delivery time. They can't make a correction then and there.
I use USPS (Priority Mail), only if I need quicker delivery than that provided by Fed Ex ground.
To all intents and purposes whether you call it value, price or cost makes no real difference. I added import duties to the equation but the original question was about postage charges - it appears everyone who has commented so far is agreed that they are high.
I worked for 23 years in the UK Inland Revenue as it was then - now HM Revenue & Customs so I'm glad you think Revenue & Customs workers are human - my wife also worked there for 42 years!
Yes, we have gone a bit off track discussing import duties, but bear with me.
It does make a difference in perception, as you pointed out in bold including the postage, which is why one has to pay $82 to get a lensboard that originally cost only $8. The problem is also of trust, and the general track record of the postal systems in different countries. If the buyer and seller trusted each other to a greater extent, and the board was sent in an envelope via regular airmail, the duty would be less, and might even escape it altogether. There is of course the risk that the envelope gets lost. The seller fears getting negative feedback, making it very difficult for him to offer cheaper shipping options that do not require a signature.
Kumar
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