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    Scott Davis
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    Re: Some suggestions on how to choose your ULF camera format.

    Quote Originally Posted by ic-racer View Post
    I'd want to consider, how it focuses, does it have movements on the front standard, how or if it folds, does it come apart easily for repairs, how much if vibrates when you knock it, does it come with film holders, what kind of tripod mount and where it balances. There are a lot of contraptions out there in ULF land that only the mother/creator could love.
    Thinking of film holders... some ULF cameras, especially vintage ones, are not built to ANSI standards, and therefore getting them with matching original film holders is an important thing, because if not, replacement holders will have to be fabricated to spec, and that will add considerably to the cost of the camera.

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    Re: Some suggestions on how to choose your ULF camera format.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sawyer View Post
    For some, the aesthetics are also important. A Civil War re-enactor wouldn't want to show up with an 11x14 Arca-Swiss monorail...
    Depends on which civil war you're referring to. There are at least 16 going on around the world at the moment...
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    Re: Some suggestions on how to choose your ULF camera format.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachlan 717 View Post
    Depends on which civil war you're referring to. There are at least 16 going on around the world at the moment...
    And so many of those are being photographed in wet plate by historic re-enactors...
    "I love my Verito lens, but I always have to sharpen everything in Photoshop..."

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    Re: Some suggestions on how to choose your ULF camera format.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sawyer View Post
    And so many of those are being photographed in wet plate by historic re-enactors...
    Okay, which of these were you referring to?

    1872–1876 in Spain
    Uruguayan Civil War, 1839–1851
    Māori War (New Zealand), 1845–1872
    Sonderbund war (Switzerland), November 1847
    Revolutions of 1848, numerous European countries, 1848–1849
    Revolution of 1851 (Chile)
    Taiping Rebellion (China), 1851–1864
    Bleeding Kansas, 1854–1858
    Indian rebellion, 1857
    War of Reform (Mexico), 1857–1861
    American Civil War, 1861–1865
    Klang War; also known as Selangor Civil War, 1867–1874
    Boshin War (Japan), 1868–1869
    Satsuma Rebellion (Japan), 1877
    Jementah Civil War, 1878
    The North-West Rebellion of 1885 in Canada
    1891 Chilean Civil War
    War of Canudos (Brazil), 1896-1897
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    Re: Some suggestions on how to choose your ULF camera format.

    Those are all still "going on at the moment"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachlan 717 View Post
    Depends on which civil war you're referring to. There are at least 16 going on around the world at the moment...
    "I love my Verito lens, but I always have to sharpen everything in Photoshop..."

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    Re: Some suggestions on how to choose your ULF camera format.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachlan 717 View Post
    Okay, which of these were you referring to?

    1872–1876 in Spain
    Uruguayan Civil War, 1839–1851
    Māori War (New Zealand), 1845–1872
    Sonderbund war (Switzerland), November 1847
    Revolutions of 1848, numerous European countries, 1848–1849
    Revolution of 1851 (Chile)
    Taiping Rebellion (China), 1851–1864
    Bleeding Kansas, 1854–1858
    Indian rebellion, 1857
    War of Reform (Mexico), 1857–1861
    American Civil War, 1861–1865
    Klang War; also known as Selangor Civil War, 1867–1874
    Boshin War (Japan), 1868–1869
    Satsuma Rebellion (Japan), 1877
    Jementah Civil War, 1878
    The North-West Rebellion of 1885 in Canada
    1891 Chilean Civil War
    War of Canudos (Brazil), 1896-1897
    My father always laughed when I recounted the Satsuma Rebellion, I guess because it sounds like it involved flinging fruit rather than the last gasp of the sword bearing samurai versus modernist elements in Japan. But surely re-enactment almost always means the American Civil War in the wet-plate / large format context!

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    Re: Some suggestions on how to choose your ULF camera format.

    Well, you've pretty well diluted the point of this thread...

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    Re: Some suggestions on how to choose your ULF camera format.

    Quote Originally Posted by karl french View Post
    Well, you've pretty well diluted the point of this thread...
    +1

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    Re: Some suggestions on how to choose your ULF camera format.

    I would like to add another deciding factor. Mine.

    (8) Maximum sheet film size that can be mounted on drum scanner.

    In my case this is a Heidelberg Tango that allows for a maximum size of roughly 14x17". As I am more of a panoramic guy I chose 7x17 and now mount two negatives at a time.

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    Re: Some suggestions on how to choose your ULF camera format.

    Quote Originally Posted by angusparker View Post
    The things I considered were:
    (1) shape (square versus panoramic)
    (2) Finished print size and your darkroom setup
    (3) film availability and cost
    (4) weight/portability - field versus studio
    (5) whether you can use wide, normal or long lenses for the format given the bellows length
    (6) camera cost and availability and
    (7) lens cost and availability

    Anything else you would add?
    Surprising given my typical analytic tendencies, but my purchase was more opportunistic...

    I had an opportunity to get an 8x20 kit that came with everything, except the lenses although with some "assembly required" (needed new bellows, new darkslides, repairs to case). Included was the camera (Korona 8x20 Panoramic View Camera), the rear extension rail, set of stiffeners (for across the rear extension rail, tripod block, and front extension rail), two film holders, original case, a 16x20 contact print frame, and a box of Ilford HP5+ film (no idea how well stored at the time).

    Given the cost and sometimes difficulties in getting everything together, I think it has to be a consideration of getting a kit with everything required in an interesting format...

    Serendipity can also be a factor.

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