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    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    It's quite probable that a Kallitype has been printed of every well-known National Park in the US. Now a daguerreotype however.. maybe you could get a first somewhere?

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    WOW!!! Thanks for those links SergeiR. I've got some good reading to do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgtaylor View Post
    WOW!!! Thanks for those links SergeiR. I've got some good reading to do!

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    i am dabbing into kalitypes too, trying to get better range than from vandykes - hence the interest

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    East Brother Light Station (1874), San Pablo Bay from Pt. Molate Shoreline.



    Palladium-toned kallitype from 5x7 Ilford FP4+ negative on Cot-320. The dilapidated piers in the foreground is part of a former sardine processing station just out of sight to the right. A couple hundred meters further is the remains of America's 2d to last whaling station (Del Monte) which was in operation from 1956 to 1971. This is an interesting and historically significant part of the Bay Area that few locals know about.

    Shot with a 610mm apo-Nikkor lens.

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    Best General View, Yosemite National Park, 2016.



    The glacial origins of the valley is plainly evident in this view. Taken with a 300mm Nikkor-W lens and printed as a palladium-toned Kallitype on Bergger Cot-320. This is probably the first Kallitype taken of this location.

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    Wild Cat Fall - Yosemite National Park, 2016.



    Split-toned with gold for a black tonality. Printed on Cot-320. For comparison with a RA-4 print, see http://spiritsofsilver.com/yahoo_sit...0706_large.jpg

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    Re: The Kallitype Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by domaz View Post
    It's quite probable that a Kallitype has been printed of every well-known National Park in the US. Now a daguerreotype however.. maybe you could get a first somewhere?
    Actually its quite unlikely. The kallitype was introduced at a time when the new silver chloride papers carried the day and the even newer bromide-silver papers met the demand for reliable and fast enlarged prints made from the small negatives produced by the new "automatic" cameras. Moreover, a recent search of the photographic collections in Art Museums did not contain examples of vintage kallitype prints for scholars to study. "Even collections whose purpose it is to collect and preserve specimens of photographic process, material, and literature, such as the International Museum of Photography or the collection at the university of New Mexico do not possess or are prepared to show visiting scholars even one example."

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    "Taken with a 300mm Nikkor-W lens and printed as a palladium-toned Kallitype on Bergger Cot-320. This is probably the first Kallitype taken of this location."
    Probably not. I made kallitypes of this scene in 1961, but know they were far from the first ones. My theory for there being no, or extremely few, kallitypes from the heyday of the process is 1- They faded away because of improper processing, commonly using Rochelle Salts, or 2 - they were toned with Pt or Pd and labeled as Pt or Pd prints. Distinguishing a kallitype toned to completion with one of these salts from a Pt or Pd print is near impossible even chemically.

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    Re: The Kallitype Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Noel View Post
    "Taken with a 300mm Nikkor-W lens and printed as a palladium-toned Kallitype on Bergger Cot-320. This is probably the first Kallitype taken of this location."
    Probably not. I made kallitypes of this scene in 1961, but know they were far from the first ones. My theory for there being no, or extremely few, kallitypes from the heyday of the process is 1- They faded away because of improper processing, commonly using Rochelle Salts, or 2 - they were toned with Pt or Pd and labeled as Pt or Pd prints. Distinguishing a kallitype toned to completion with one of these salts from a Pt or Pd print is near impossible even chemically.

    Dick Sullivan's article comes to a similar conclusion.

    http://www.bostick-sullivan.com/techart.php

    For a number of years I made both pt/pd prints and pt/pd toned kallitypes, and did not note in some cases the process. Some ten years later there is no way to tell the difference, as the end result is the same, both visually and in terms of the composition of the image itself.

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    Re: The Kallitype Thread

    I find it hard to believe that all the Kallitypes either faded or are disguised as pt/pd prints. Its more reasonable to assume that their paucity is a result of too few photographers were using the process.

    Thomas

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