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    Re: The Van Dyke Brownprint Thread

    Rael - It's printed on Bergger Cot-320 which I've been using exclusively for alternative printing for well over a year now.

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    Re: The Van Dyke Brownprint Thread

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    I wonder how archival a palladium toned print is compared to a gold or platinum toned?

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    Archival qualities Should be similar between palladium and platinum since the two metals are equally noble. It really depends on your toner, and how much of the silver metal you replaced in toning with the more noble metal.

    Consider also gold toning for vandyke as gold is even more noble than palladium and platinum, and the bluish/black image gold toning is highly distinctive.
    http://www.sandykingphotography.com/...riting/vandyke

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    Thanks for the input Sandy. From all the hype about platinum prints, I would have thought that it would be the more noble of the three. That's another reason to revisit the chemistry textbooks I have in the storage locker. Although this print doesn't show it as much, I have settled on palladium toner for this subject which I think complements it better that platinum or gold would.

    Mostly due to the blank sky, I'm not satisfied with this negative and meant to re-shoot it on my last trip to Bodie. However I arrived tad too late as this is a morning shot when the sun rises above the ridge-line to the east where the mines are located providing frontal light on the saloon and barbershop. On the day that I shot this negative a 60+mph wind gust came unexpectedly roaring up Main street and I foolishly grabbed for the rolling case's foam insert instead of for the camera and the the wind knocked over the camera damaging the front rise which I had to have repaired by Toyo (Mamiya America).

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    Calumet C1 8x10 camera
    Besler 9 inch f/3.5 projector lens
    3 1/4 x 4 1/4 speed graphic body shutter.
    Fuji HR X ray film developed in Rodinal 1:100 7 minutes
    Van Dyke Brown on Bergger Cot 320 after exposure but before wash

    X ray film019-2 by Joaquin Barbara, on Flickr

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    Re: The Van Dyke Brownprint Thread

    Cathedral Rock & Merced - Yosemite National Park, 2016.



    5x7 Ilford FP4+negative printed as a palladium-toned Van Dyke Brownprint on Bergger Cot-320. Nikkor 120mm -SW lens.

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    Not the best scan in the world...



    5x7 FP4+, no-name petzval. Developed in LC-110, printed on Bergger Cot-320

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanking View Post
    Archival qualities Should be similar between palladium and platinum since the two metals are equally noble. It really depends on your toner, and how much of the silver metal you replaced in toning with the more noble metal.

    Consider also gold toning for vandyke as gold is even more noble than palladium and platinum, and the bluish/black image gold toning is highly distinctive.
    http://www.sandykingphotography.com/...riting/vandyke

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    I agree. I don't tone all VDB's,but use gold when I do.It generally adds a life to prints which is not evident to me with Pt or Pd toners.
    I have never had a problem with longevity of untoned prints. Ihave some which are 25-30 years old with no sign of fading.

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    Cathedral Rocks - Yosemite National Park, 2016.



    Palladium-toned Van Dyke Brownprint. 8x10 Fuji Acros negative printed on Bergger cot-320; 240mm Schneider Symmar-S.

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    Re: The Van Dyke Brownprint Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Noel View Post
    I agree. I don't tone all VDB's,but use gold when I do.It generally adds a life to prints which is not evident to me with Pt or Pd toners.
    I have never had a problem with longevity of untoned prints. Ihave some which are 25-30 years old with no sign of fading.
    My idea is to choose the toner according to the image and what I am attempting to depict. For example, for the image Wildcat Fall in the Kallitype thread I chose to tone with gold because I wanted a dark tonality with no browns and that's what I got. Originally I planned to tone Cathedral Rocks with gold but I underexposed the print and it came out too light and red. Thinking that the sensitizer had aged (I mixed it at the end of last year and didn't keep it refrigerated which is supposed to prolong its working life up to a year) I planned to reprint it after I had made a new batch but ended-up reprinting it on the spur of the moment with the old sensitizer - after all Cathedral Rock and Merced above was printed just a few days earlier and it (printed from a FP4+ negative) came out a tad too dark and I will have to reprint it. The former was printed off an Acros negative and needed more exposure. I normally print alternatives from Ilford Delta 100 and need to pay strict attention to the various data sheets when not printing from Delta.

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    Re: The Van Dyke Brownprint Thread

    For the past couple of years I have been matting my prints on 4-ply museum board complete with cut window and storing them in ClearFile sleeve protectors in print racks where I occasionally pick one out to examine. Here's one picked at random a couple of days ago that I haven’t looked at in a while:



    According to my field notes the Delta 100 negative was shot on 30 October 2015 with a 480mm Apo-Ronar at f45-⅓ for 1/15th second and printed shortly thereafter as a palladium-toned VDB on Bergger Cot-320 paper.

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