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    Re: Studio exposure/development test for black and white film illuminated with strobe

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter J. De Smidt View Post
    Well, Sergei, that works pretty well in your case!
    IMHO : one of best investments photographer can make is Dean Collins tapes on light Strobes or not..

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    Re: Studio exposure/development test for black and white film illuminated with strobe

    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    IMHO : one of best investments photographer can make is Dean Collins tapes on light Strobes or not..
    +1. Agreed in full 110% .

    1). Exposure.
    2). Shadow Edge Transfer.
    3). Specular Edge Transfer.
    4). Contrast between Shadow & Diffused.
    5). Contrast between Diffused & Specular.

    Dean Collins really knew what he was doing!
    IMHO... There is no one else like him teaching (even) today.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter J. De Smidt View Post
    I came across Phil Davis's suggestions:

    "Here's a summary of the procedure:

    • Meter the highlight area (pop the flash to get the reading)
    • Meter the shadow area
    • Subtract the low reading from the high (in stops) and add 5; that's the SBR
    • Consult your EFS/SBR chart to find the DOUBLED film speed
    • Set this DOUBLED film speed into the meter
    • Re-read the shadow area using this new DOUBLED speed
    • Use the recommended aperture and shoot
    • Consult the Dev/SBR chart to find the developing time." -Posted on the BTZS forum.
    Peter, do you happen to have the URL Link for this information?
    I see a *potential* problem with this 'Methodology'.

    But, before commenting further... I of course would like to read up on it in further detail -- Since this is just a 'Summary' of the information. Thank-you!

    Best regards, -Tim.

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    Re: Studio exposure/development test for black and white film illuminated with strobe

    Tim,

    I'm not sure if this link will work, but it was: http://www.btzs.org/Forums/forum/Def...ct=495#xx495xx

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    Re: Studio exposure/development test for black and white film illuminated with strobe

    Got it. Thanks Peter!
    Yes, I now see the 'specific' post from Phil... That you were referencing.
    --
    Just FYI... It is this 'Statement' (by Phil) that I see a *potential* flaw with:


    >> Subtract the low reading from the high (in stops) and add 5; that's the SBR.



    I of course have no problem with the first part of the statement (Subtract the low reading from the high (in stops) )...

    ... But, the 'add 5' does look suspicious?

    I will now look further at the complete BTZS 'Thread' and get back to you -- Okay?
    Thank-you!

    Best regards, -Tim.

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    Re: Studio exposure/development test for black and white film illuminated with strobe

    Previously, you cited the following (*Which I of course 'Wholeheartedly' agree with):

    >> The SBR depends on the subject, and also on the illumination.

    Therefore, our 'illumination' (Electronic Flash in this instance) is of course...
    The difference between the Highlight Area and Shadow Area (Incident Reading).

    However... How does 'Phil' know that our 'Subject Contrast' is always 5 f-stops (hence the 'add 5') difference?

    For all we know... Our 'Subject Contrast' could only be 2 or 3 f-stops.
    Then again... It could possibly be even more than 5 f-stops difference.
    (*You get the idea of course!)

    Perhaps, this calculation is 'compensated for' and/or adjusted... Somewhere else in his Plotter Program? Then again, perhaps I am missing something here?

    I sincerely hope, that this all makes a little bit of sense!

    Best regards, -Tim.

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    Re: Studio exposure/development test for black and white film illuminated with strobe

    Get yourself a good copy of the Kodak Professional Photoguide that has the gray scale in it.
    Get a good incident light meter.
    Get a good fixed fill light.
    Figure out what light ratios you want to use.
    Test.
    Shoot.

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