It's four times as much dots as 4x5. Not more, not less. If you can go up to 16x20 to your satisfaction with 4x5, you can expect to pull off 32x40 or a little less with 8x10. Of course costs of film increase quite rapidly as well but so does bulk. If you shoot 8x10, you come to view 4x5 as nimble and portable...
I dry scan everything even sections of 11X14, if it's curled I lay AN 8X10 on top.
But that's just for yucks.
I don't use the now digital file for printing. I contact print or enlarge. Far more fun and still magic when something develops.
I use a DSLR when I want digital printing and I have a pro print that.
All roads lead to the 'Icon'!
Tin Can
NiceOriginally Posted by Randy Moe
I need a home scanner in pretty good quality, for 4x5 and 8x10 negatives, and I'm asking for some advice from your experiences.
V800 or v850 seem universally known as pretty good.
But I did not find specifications on tech differences between the two, even in this specific thread...
I would like to "reach the grain", avoiding "interpretations" by scanner softwares or by any other trick.
Actually, a good example I've seen here is this one, coming from a 4990 one:
http://www.kennethleegallery.com/htm...8x10Detail.php
Do you have any clue?
Thank everybody
Sadly there are no many alternatives, tell me another 8x10 able scanner you can buy new with warranty, etc
Alternatives are old Pro gear with potential troubles with service and drivers for new computers.
The single physical difference is that V850 internal lenses are coated, but this is hard to be noticed in most situations.
The difference is in the bundled Silverfast software version, "SE PLus" vs "SE". The V800 version does not include Multi-Exposure feature that enhances performance for high velvia densities from 3.11D to 3.38D, Silverfast says. If you have a V800 you can purchase that ME feature separately later, https://www.silverfast.com/highlight...posure/en.html
To really "reach well" the grain with sheets you need a drum scanner, some flatbeds like Cezanne are able to scan strips of the sheet at high res that you have to join in Photoshop to get the full image, if not stitching in Ps then the EPSON is a very good choice sporting some 2400dpi effective (from 6400 hardware) when scanning width is under 5.9" (4x5 and 5x7 sheets),
For 8x10 the EPSON uses another lens that covers 8" width (rather than 5.9") delivering around 2000 dpi effective. For 8x10 the sheet is placed on the bed with emulsion down to avoid newton rings, you may even wet mount the sheet on the scanner glass bed.
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With 4x5 a V800 perfroms better than a 4990, for 8x10" both perform similar, main difference is that the 4990 has a single lens covering 8", while the V800/850 has one lens covering 8" and another one covering only until 5.9". The 5.9" coverage lens is used with film holders, if instead using a holder you use the 8x10 "area guide" then the scanner detects it and uses the lower res lens covering more.
Another thing is that the epsons deliver a less digitally optimized image, Pro scanners usually have inside dedicated smart processing to optimize the images, with an epson you always have an additional job in Ps to refine the image result.
Thank you Pere Casals!
You are right: there are no alternatives on new machines, but now I know differences...
Yes: in case of exhibitions and collection prints series I would go to a lab for a drum scanning at highest level: here in Italy there are some well known internationally.
But to have a good scan for "close" purposes and to analyze images and possibilities the 850 could be good enough... at least I hope.
Thank you again
None of the Epson have 5X7 dedicated film holders. I use the OE 8X10 matte outline for 5X7.
The 800 series is vastly improved over 700 with LED illumination which need no warmup.
I use a 700 and do not see a need to upgrade yet. I will wait for the 900/1000 series as mine works great.
Tin Can
I use an V850 with excellent results. Will do anything up to 8x10.
I'm in Italy too, but I don't know any lab that does drum scans on request. Well actually I just found one in Firenze but it's way too far from where I'm located (Milan hinterland).
May I know which ones you refer about?
On a side note for everyone: I'm looking for a new scanner too, with a 4x5 sheet and a V800, what final image resolution I can expect with the best/highest settings? Thanks.
I know that Massimo Vitali prints near Como, at one of the best printing studios/labs in the planet... but I don't remember the name
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