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    Re: Why is everything we write republished without attribution????

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    I just found my words and yours on this site.

    http://newscentral.exsees.com/item/8...d0a117e2509a4d

    I am not blaming this forum, as most likely this is just plain theft, or is it perfectly normal?

    I see my words but not my name...

    randy
    i don't really think there is anything one can do about data harvesting sites ..
    what irks me though is when actual PEOPLE, not robots will regurgitate things
    they read and claim it is their own. i remember many years ago a former website where the owner
    boiler plated text off of someone else's website website, typed it word for word ...
    on the english version of their website ( both were forum members ).

    and then there are the folks who create a persona by regurgitating other peoples ideas + experiences
    so their audience thinks they are brilliant and experienced. i remember a guy named michael scarpetti
    years ago used to go on and on and on about all sorts of stuff, but if you were lucky enough
    to find images HE made ( not ones he posted as examples of his work ) you thought it was a different person.

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    Re: Why is everything we write republished without attribution????

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    I just found my words and yours on this site.

    http://newscentral.exsees.com/item/8...d0a117e2509a4d

    I am not blaming this forum, as most likely this is just plain theft, or is it perfectly normal?

    I see my words but not my name...
    Fair Use

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    Re: Why is everything we write republished without attribution????

    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvmyviewcam View Post
    Fair use.
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    Fair Use
    Wrong back in April, still wrong now.
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    Re: Why is everything we write republished without attribution????

    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvmyviewcam View Post
    Fair Use
    It is very difficult to determine fair use or copyright infringement on general principles. Often overlooked is the fact regarding copyright (and of course fair use) is that every instance is taken on a case-by-case basis. Further, cases that look alike can have different judgements as the courts consider changing social and technology characteristics.

    The emergence of mash-ups and authoritative or at lease very well constructed arguments for them is changing the landscape of copyright, legal thinking.

    Wholesale copying of a forum seems so ubiquitous that I'm frankly stunned, but legal rationale is more intimidating.

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    Re: Why is everything we write republished without attribution????

    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    i remember a guy named michael scarpetti
    years ago used to go on and on and on about all sorts of stuff
    Scarpitti, yes, and the scarey part was his sig where he claimed to be a Nuclear Inspector.

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    Re: Why is everything we write republished without attribution????

    It means LF film photography is still relevant !
    Real cameras are measured in inches...
    Not pixels.

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    Re: Why is everything we write republished without attribution????

    Quote Originally Posted by Jac@stafford.net View Post
    It is very difficult to determine fair use or copyright infringement on general principles. Often overlooked is the fact regarding copyright (and of course fair use) is that every instance is taken on a case-by-case basis. Further, cases that look alike can have different judgements as the courts consider changing social and technology characteristics.

    The emergence of mash-ups and authoritative or at lease very well constructed arguments for them is changing the landscape of copyright, legal thinking.

    Wholesale copying of a forum seems so ubiquitous that I'm frankly stunned, but legal rationale is more intimidating.
    Usually it depends on $$.

    No $, limited & education use = fair use.

    Bad news for the pretentious photog that thinks the world revolves around them.

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    Re: Why is everything we write republished without attribution????

    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvmyviewcam View Post
    No $ [...] = fair use.
    Wrong, yet again!

    http://www.publiccounsel.org/tools/p...es/fairuse.pdf

    Here's an entire publication about FU for non-profits. See #17, "Common misunderstandings about fair use," bullet point #3.
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    Re: Why is everything we write republished without attribution????

    I think it's just a case of "mirror everything and you'll get at least a few hits for your advertising revenue stream", combined with "yeah, go ahead and sue me for whatever, my web site is in Nigeria..."

    The modern business model is to set up a trillion web sites that each make a penny, one millionth of a cent at a time...
    "I love my Verito lens, but I always have to sharpen everything in Photoshop..."

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    Re: Why is everything we write republished without attribution????

    Quote Originally Posted by Corran View Post
    To add to your argument, that excellent article first refers to the non-profit status of the organization. One measure of fair use is the economic impact upon the copyright holder regardless of the status of the organization. So if a public university bundles my work into a hand-out while the same work was available in the school bookshop I might have a case in court.

    From the article: In general, ask yourself: Could my use of this copyrighted work potentially affect the sales of this work? If so, it’s likely not a fair use.
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