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    Re: New film from Begger! BERGGER Pancro 400

    Hopefully, it'll be less grainy than their 200, which was really a 100 speed film with more grain than HP5+. For small enlargements, though, it could be very beautiful.
    Bergger 200 was rebadged Forte pan 200 and it was a bit grainy but nice and with an extended red sensitivity.
    I might be mistaken but I don't think Bergger ever manufactured anything. Film and paper products are rebranded products made by other manufacturers, some perhaps to special specifications.

    Knowing what the price differences were in the past I am certain that the new line of film will be priced in the high end of the spectrum but still it is nice to see something new.

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    Re: New film from Begger! BERGGER Pancro 400

    I believe Bergger has stated that it is a brand new and original film. Whether or not they are manufacturing it themselves, is beyond me.

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    Re: New film from Begger! BERGGER Pancro 400

    They pretty much confirmed in the APUG thread that it's being coated to their specifications by Inoviscoat.
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    Re: New film from Begger! BERGGER Pancro 400

    It's a bit hard to read the characteristic curve because the plotting points are so large in the diagram. And things like grain rendition, edge effect, etc in relation
    to popular developers will require personal testing, if someone is willing to import this film to the US. I doubt it will be a replacement for Bergger 200. Wish it
    was. More likely a competitor to TMY400, but that's just a hunch. But tentatively, it looks like it will be a high quality product. There will probably have to be some favorable balance in the exchange rate before anyone risks importing any significant quantity of it. Playing that game intelligently can make or break distribution.
    Meanwhile, maybe somebody can bootleg in a few boxes from Europe to test once this is available.

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    Re: New film from Begger! BERGGER Pancro 400

    I'm definitely going to try and get my hands on a box.

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    Here is to hoping that Bergger has made prudent marketing decisions with this film so that it can fall within the reasonbleness / competitive price price point. If this translates to steering clear of Freestyle then so be it. Case in point is the recent Adox II sheet film is priced $175 per 25 sheet box in 8x10 when FP4+ can be had at $120 in the same quantity and format. It is exciting if Bergger is not repackaging film this time around. Looking forward to someone sharing their experiences with this product when it becomes available.

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    Re: New film from Begger! BERGGER Pancro 400

    I agree. If it is not competitive with Ilford, then I won't bother.

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