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    Kodak Retouching Fluid replacement. Ideas?

    I am reading Veronica Cass' book on film retouching.

    Anybody have an idea for a 'glue like' fluid replacement that dries on negatives to allow pencil retouching, similar to discontinued Kodak Retouching Fluid?
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    Re: Kodak Retouching Fluid replacement. Ideas?

    No, but if you use 320TXP it'll have "tooth" on both sides, i.e. ready to retouch.

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    Re: Kodak Retouching Fluid replacement. Ideas?

    You can download this book for free:

    https://archive.org/details/photographicfact00wall

    The b/w pdf is one I use. There are several formulas for making your own retouching fluid.

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    Re: Kodak Retouching Fluid replacement. Ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by desertrat View Post
    You can download this book for free:

    https://archive.org/details/photographicfact00wall

    The b/w pdf is one I use. There are several formulas for making your own retouching fluid.
    Wow. Excellent book. I just skimmed it. One 'recipe' has gasoline with a caution!

    Also published during Prohibition so alcohol substitutes are listed.

    Thank you!
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    Re: Kodak Retouching Fluid replacement. Ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura View Post
    No, but if you use 320TXP it'll have "tooth" on both sides, i.e. ready to retouch.
    Yes, thanks!
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    Re: Kodak Retouching Fluid replacement. Ideas?

    Just go to any serious art store. They'll have a spray fixative for this kind of use, to give you tooth on the back of the film. It's a routine "graphics arts" product.

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    Re: Kodak Retouching Fluid replacement. Ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Wiley View Post
    Just go to any serious art store. They'll have a spray fixative for this kind of use, to give you tooth on the back of the film. It's a routine "graphics arts" product.
    I always prefer non aerosol. Do you have a product name?

    The original was liquid in tiny 1/2 OZ bottles.

    It's cold here and spraying anything inside is a bad idea and outside is not ideal either.

    Thanks for the tip.
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    Re: Kodak Retouching Fluid replacement. Ideas?

    Randy, just looking at the recipes, as well as some others that I found, none of the varnishes are very esoteric, except that the ones based on turpentine will be much slower to dry than the ether ones, and the others will be in between. Otherwise, they resemble many common solvent-based varnishes, and use a variety of resins which appear to actually have very little in common, except that they're resins. The fixative idea doesn't sound off the wall, then, but if you want to play around, I have most of the ingredients necessary with the exception of ether, in my shop. Isn't ether what starting spray is? If so, maybe you can come up with some.

    This is a project I've been meaning to try. I suppose the first thing I should try is take some of the normal stuff I use for repairs, and airbrush it on the back of a neg, just to see what happens. . .
    Thanks, but I'd rather just watch:
    Large format: http://flickr.com/michaeldarnton
    Mostly 35mm: http://flickr.com/mdarnton
    You want digital, color, etc?: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stradofear

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    Re: Kodak Retouching Fluid replacement. Ideas?

    Some things are easier to try than talking. I just took some of my repair varnish and sprayed it on a piece of glass. The result when thick was basically ground-glass looking and wrote on like a piece of paper, but it took very little to give enough tooth for me to sign my name on the glass. I have no idea how visible the frosting it gave would be in prints.

    Wiping it on left "brush" marks. Using turpentime, giving time to flow out, might mitigate that. I don't know if they'd be important on negs. I remember the photographer I worked for in high school wiping retouch varnish on negs, but I never bothered to look at the results, so I missed my chance, I guess, by about 50 years....

    Sprayable pressurized fixative made a MUCH worse surface than I could with my airbrush--the droplets weren't nearly as finely divided as the airbrush could do. Again, I don't know how much this would matter on film in retouching, but it didn't look that great on a piece of glass.
    Thanks, but I'd rather just watch:
    Large format: http://flickr.com/michaeldarnton
    Mostly 35mm: http://flickr.com/mdarnton
    You want digital, color, etc?: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stradofear

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    Re: Kodak Retouching Fluid replacement. Ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    It's cold here and spraying anything inside is a bad idea and outside is not ideal either.
    Just mix your sauce up with Everclear, put it on with an airbrush, and you won't care about breathing more, after a certain point. :-)
    Thanks, but I'd rather just watch:
    Large format: http://flickr.com/michaeldarnton
    Mostly 35mm: http://flickr.com/mdarnton
    You want digital, color, etc?: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stradofear

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