Archiving Artwork, Best lens to use with Toyo 45F?

[M.S.Bizzle]

Hello and thank you for a fantastic forum and website. Thanks also to those who help us newbies by answering our queries!

I am a painter who is getting into LF because I would like to archive my work. Currently I have pieces scanned by a pro studio but it is costly! I am familiar with photography and consider myself to be at an intermediate level. I have an opportunity to purchase a Toyo 45F in near mint cond. for $300. I've researched extensively and have found this to be a fair price. The photographer selling the camera is also including a light meter, some basic extras for the camera and some tutorial sessions. he's very helpful, so I feel it's a good deal all around.

My question: I will be photographing paintings, sizes 8x10" up to 5x6 feet. I have a decent sized room to shoot the work, lighting will be ??? ...addressed as money and know-how allows - but I'm wondering what will be the best size lens to use? I'm on a budget (starving artist and all that) so I'll be looking at purchasing a used lens.

thanks in advance for your response and help!

[Michael S. Briggs]

Based on excellent performance in this application, reasonable price and ready availability on the used market, I suggest a G-Claron. These are symmetrical lenses optimized for closeup work but which also work well even for objects at infinity. They have more coverage than some of the other process lens types. They cost less than the currenlty made LF maco lenses. 210 mm would be a good focal length for your application.

[Glenn Kroeger]

Ditto... this is what the G-Claron lives for!

[tim atherton]

Although I don't agree with everything 100% this is a pretty good little primer


http://www.kinesisgear.com/copywork.html

[Gem Singer]

Hello M.S.,

The camera you are referring to is actually a Toyo- Omega 45F. It is a discontinued model, but for $300, incl. accessories, it sounds like an O.K. deal. Just make sure that the bellows does not leak and the camera package includes at least one lensboard milled for a Copal 0 or a Copal 1 shutter, to fit whichever lens/shutter you will use on the camera.

A Schneider G-Claron, in the 150 or 210 focal length, would be a good lens choice, as would a Nikkor 200M, a Fujinon 180A, or Fujinon 240A. All of these lenses are process lens formulations and are idealized for photographing flat objects, such as paintings.

[Bill_1856]

For your needs, and to save money, I believe that the best possible lens would be a good used Kodak Ektar f:7.7/203 mm. Be sure to get a coated one. Should go for $150-200.

[jerry brodkey]

I would also suggest that you invest in a polarizer. I always use one for this kind of work.....

But I'll be the devil's advocate: I'm wondering why you have chosen to do this in large format.

There are alot easier formats to work with including digital which might be more convenient in the long run.

The only reason I use a view camera for this kind of work now is if I need an 8X10 transparency which is

what most, but not all, museum curators want to see....Alot of art work is sent around the web now

and so I do alot with a digital camera....

Jerry

[Christian Olivet]

Yes G-claron. They were made just for that and are great and not that expensive.

[M.S.Bizzle]

Jerry,

I have chosen the 4x5 format for its high quality and relative ease in obtaining gear, and inexpensive film & lab costs. Speaking of 8x10 transparencies - I am excited about the 45F because of the removable bellows - I could obtain an 8x10 rear frame for large transparencies, yes?

I have been using 35mm (Nikon 6006) and digital (Canon 4 megapixel) for archiving my work, and wil continue to do so even along with the 4x5. But a new digital that has the resolution I want is far too expensive, and 35mm slides will not allow for large reproductions.

Thanks for bringing that up though - pro-digital will definitely be a future purchase!

[Paul Fitzgerald]

Hi there, starving artist:

IF (big IF) you can find them in clean condition:

Steinheil V-Quinon 210/5.6 , a great APO copy lens;

Wollensak Pro-Raptar enlarger lenses, about the sharpest lenses ever made;

Kodak 203/7.7 Ektar, originally for 5X7 copy work, single coated, slightly less contrast.

For flat copy work would it make sense to build a box inside a box camera, no movements so the lens and film are always parallel to each other and considerably cheaper. You can always find a 4X5 Graflok back assembly on ebay.

Just a thought, happy holidays