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    8x10 used cameras are mainly from the US

    Hi,

    I was wondering whether the majority of 8x10 used cameras come the the US market? I'm based in the UK, and don't have a very large budget (max £500), and I'm wondering whether I'm going to need to bite the bullet and pay postage + import (plus run the risk of cross border importing).

    There are a lot of used fullplate cameras on the market over here, but I really want to go up to 8x10 (I am interest in shooting plates & film). I'm looking to get a lots of movement, plus a reasonably light-ish package that it would be possible to go on short hikes with. Also would like a large lens board for big, heavy lenses.

    I have been thinking along the lines of either a Century Universal, Kodak Master View, or maybe an Ansco 8x10. (Deardorff probably a bit too expensive).

    So, with these cameras in mind, am I really just looking at the US market?

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    Re: 8x10 used cameras are mainly from the US

    Not really. It depends somewhat on how much of a hurry you are in to get one, but we have seen used 8x10 cameras from EU forum members, as well as on ebay. A bit of research and patience on your part should pay off nicely.

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    Re: 8x10 used cameras are mainly from the US

    Look on ebay.de. I just took a quick look, found a Canham Traditional, a Plabel Peco Profia, a wooden reisekamera, a Toyo 810MII, a Bermpohl, another big old wooden camera, a Sinar P, a monster studio camera, a Horseman, more old wooden cameras, ...

    Remember that 18x24 is another way of saying 8x10.

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    Re: 8x10 used cameras are mainly from the US

    Take a look if you want at Manual Camera

    https://www.facebook.com/manual.camera?fref=ts

    He is in Spain but speaks english.

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    Re: 8x10 used cameras are mainly from the US

    Hey, fantastic - thanks for all of the replies! I have looked on German ebay before, but I guess I was scared off by potentially not being able to ask the correct questions due to language barriers. But I guess there is always google translate! Also, I'll take a look at "Manual Camera" once I'm back from work.

    I'm not in a major hurry to acquire, but I've have been researching for a few months now, so am ready to take the plunge. I'm just coming straight up from digital. I know the recommendation will be to go 4x5 first (or even medium format), but I definitely want to shoot plates at some point, and, in terms of film, will look to get a 4x5 reducing back whilst I practice.

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    Re: 8x10 used cameras are mainly from the US

    Not many 10x8 cameras were made after WWII in the UK and pre-WWII British plate cameras took book-form plate holders except the British made Kodak Whole plate cameras. Be aware that only modern continental 18x24 cameras use International DDS (film holders) older cameras use book-form holders.

    If you want a monorail then De Vere's Cambo's, Toyo's, Sinar's etc are plentiful here, field cameras are rarer, few get listed on Ebay. I bought an Agfa Ansco Commercial View from the US, but you need to be careful and check what movements they have, some have no front tilt and only slight rear tilt.

    Alternately you can look or a more modern camera 10x8 Wista's and Ebont=y's, etc do appear on the Forums occasionally in the UK. If you import from the US allow about 35% extra for all the taxes as there's Import duty and VAT to pay on the item & shipping as well as a charge to collect it by Parcel Force !!!!

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    Re: 8x10 used cameras are mainly from the US

    I think starting with 4x5 can be a bit of a dead end. You will need scanning or an enlargers to get prints which are satisfactory.

    Staring with 5x7/13x18cm, full plate, 18x24cm or 8x10 gives you better opportunities to get easy positive images that are worth looking at! The older design wooden cameras have the same back for reduced size and need just a carboard/wood insert and a pencil rectangle on the ground glass. And these older wooden/brass cameras have holders that are OK for film, dry and wet plates.

    I think most people overestimate the use they will be making of movements (there is a thread on this) and I would recommend (no surprise to oldtimers here!) an 18x24cm or full plate tailboard camera.

    Prices for these on ebay (both France and Germany) are "blown-up" but there are other sources.

    The illustration is of one sold on Tuesday, this week in Devon (England) on an online/saleroom auction that is probably 13x18 or 5x7" size. Estimate was £20 - £40, but it went for £110 because someone else was interested, unfortunately!
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    Re: 8x10 used cameras are mainly from the US

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    Remember that 18x24 is another way of saying 8x10.
    Not quite. 18x24cm is a bit smaller than 8x10". While international backs accept both formats (different holders/dds), older european 18x24cm cameras will not work with 8x10" film.

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    Re: 8x10 used cameras are mainly from the US

    seen here are a few decent camera, the question is how to be delivered http://claz.org/classifieds?q=8x10+camera

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    Re: 8x10 used cameras are mainly from the US

    Quote Originally Posted by IanG View Post
    If you want a monorail then De Vere's Cambo's, Toyo's, Sinar's etc are plentiful here, field cameras are rarer, few get listed on Ebay. I bought an Agfa Ansco Commercial View from the US, but you need to be careful and check what movements they have, some have no front tilt and only slight rear tilt.
    Ian
    Yeah, I wouldn't mind a rail as long as it was light. I came close to getting an Arca Swiss on auction, but it went for £700, and was an older version with no distinguishing model number. Weight is a concern, and I was unable to find anything with regards to how heavy these were in the past.

    So, primarily I'm looking for a field camera I think.

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