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    Re: Alt-Process Prints from Digital Negatives or Positives

    Attached is a shot of a CMY carbon pigment print. Image size is 7.25 X 10.5", on 12X16" Melinex 339, acrylic sized.

    It has taken a lot of fine tuning to get the transfer right, including decreasing soak time and total time of development, and adding some alcohol to the transfer water when mating the second and third image. Even with these changes the magenta and cyan images over the yellow are very delicate, and even 20-30 seconds of over-development, or + 2 or 3 degrees of development water, will result in the very thin layers of those reliefs separating in part from what is below. So I have to be very careful with the development bath, both in terms of exact time and exact temperature.

    The image is another wall art/grafitti from Oaxaca, Mexico. Rather macabre, entitled "La vida empieza en donde la vida termina. Dios Nunca Muere." = Reality begins where life ends. God never dies.


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    Re: Alt-Process Prints from Digital Negatives or Positives

    I like your colour work Sandy , hope to see them in person some day

    Bob

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    Thanks Bob,

    The work itself is pretty fascinating, but I have mixed feelings about the prints. I am often pleased with the result, but not at all satisfied at this point with consistency in terms of color balance. As you can see, most of the prints I am making are able to live in a fairly wide range of color so everything I am doing at this point is almost in the realm of the one-off and done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob carnie View Post
    I like your colour work Sandy , hope to see them in person some day

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    Re: Alt-Process Prints from Digital Negatives or Positives

    Quote Originally Posted by sanking View Post
    Thanks Bob,

    The work itself is pretty fascinating, but I have mixed feelings about the prints. I am often pleased with the result, but not at all satisfied at this point with consistency in terms of color balance. As you can see, most of the prints I am making are able to live in a fairly wide range of color so everything I am doing at this point is almost in the realm of the one-off and done.

    Sandy





    Sandy - One of the reasons I took on colour gum was the fact that the colour was not consistent if being judged by side by side inkjets... This week I am showing 45 prints all from different sources and photographers, who come at photography from unique vantage points. All the prints are either tri toned silver, or duo tone gum and in some cases tri gum.

    I expect there will be some with huge lunch bag letdown when they see what I have printed (I did not let the photographers interact with this show on the printing) but what will be funny and I know from last showings of gum prints, people will come in and absolutely love the very same prints. This will confuse the photographer, but I hope it makes them pause and look deeper at the images.

    In this show I can say there are two of the very best prints I have made in my career, one coming from a digital capture and the other from film capture.
    John Bentley is very concerned about the colour fidelity matching his transparency and I cannot argue with his results , but I must say the chance of allowing the image take on its own unique character with your help is
    something very rewarding.
    It has been said that John prints rival the very best inkjets in colour fidelity and look, (he strives for this perfection and in most cased gets it )I personally do not want this ever to be said about my work. So I am prepared for the inevitable let down but excited for the absolutely fantastic.

    It is so common place these days to make a perfect inkjet or dye coupler print that I think the viewing audience is saturated with quality and when they see one of these non perfect, layered textured prints it takes them aback. Some people are too quick to judge and IMO not the audience I am aiming for. I want people to look at the image and not leave it for a very long time- go to any current contemporary show and you will not find people resting on images as we once did looking at a Salgado enlarger print, or a Sheila Meistner Fresson.

    I encourage you not to get caught up in perfection but keep printing the colour and seeing where it takes you . You have such a vibrant archive of images that I for one would love to see one off not perfect colour alongside your perfect carbons we all have seen and love.
    The last couple of years have shown me there is no subject matter that will not work, in some cases it takes me about four try's and a lot of paper to figure out how to represent some images.

    I have just taken on a show in September of my solarized colour and black and white dresses, and I think I will completely enjoy playing with colour and density and I know for sure they will not be perfect.


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    Re: Alt-Process Prints from Digital Negatives or Positives

    Bob,

    Looking forward to seeing the final prints of the dresses. Knowing the dress designer, I think she has a whimsical outlook with some of her designs and will enjoy the use of gum of the dress images.

    Keep us posted of when and where they are to be shown so we get a chance to see them.

    Best regards,

    Len

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    Re: Alt-Process Prints from Digital Negatives or Positives

    Quote Originally Posted by Len Middleton View Post
    Bob,

    Looking forward to seeing the final prints of the dresses. Knowing the dress designer, I think she has a whimsical outlook with some of her designs and will enjoy the use of gum of the dress images.

    Keep us posted of when and where they are to be shown so we get a chance to see them.

    Best regards,

    Len
    Thanks Len

    I just put the second coat of blue/mag/lampblack mixture on them and am almost finished washing out, I am quite happy with some of them.

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