Is Ilford FP4 and Photowarehouse Ultrafine ISO 125 Film Same Thing?

**CP Goerz** · 4-Sep-2004, 15:50

I had heard the PW film was FP4 not FP4+, maybe something to remember if you only use PW film and think you are going to be fine if Ilford drops out the sheet film market. Another part of the story is that the film comes to PW in big rolls that aren't quite long enough to allow the cutting machines at Ilford to reach optimum speed before they start cutting (they would run out of film or have a very short cutting run from the feeder roll). The 'short' rolls are then sold off and thats how PW gets the film...suppposedly.

CP Goerz

**phil sweeney** · 4-Sep-2004, 17:21

Exposing a step tablet onto FP4 and PW I found the films to be so close I have concluded they are the same. Developed in ABC for exaggerated grain I found the grain structure to be the same. I measured the films with a micrometer and found them to be within 0.0002 inches of each other.

I have been fortunate to have not received miscut film from them yet!

Jorge: did they refuse to replace the miscut film?

**Jorge Gasteazoro** · 4-Sep-2004, 18:06

Jorge: did they refuse to replace the miscut film?

I did not even try Phil, being in Mexico just getting the film across customs it would have been a hassle to send it back and forth. OTOH, John from J&C posted in APUG he would send new film to those who had problems. I know there is a rep from PW that checks these forums, we did not hear a word from him. Anyway, in my case it is not such a big deal, I have a rototrim in the DR. But certainly expect this to be the last time it happens.

**Bob._3483** · 4-Sep-2004, 20:27

The Ilford web site is clear about Ilford's willingness to make film & paper for off-brand sale. Ilford is indeed the only film manufacturer in the UK, although there is another b&w paper manufacturer: Kentmere.

As an aside, it's somewhat ironic that one up and coming UK manufacturer is Lyson - which is only 20 miles down the road from Ilford's factory...

Cheers,

**Jorge Gasteazoro** · 4-Sep-2004, 20:46

Yeah but Lyson does not make film or paper, does it?

**Andre Noble** · 4-Sep-2004, 23:26

Digital Photography

**Bob._3483** · 5-Sep-2004, 12:12

Lyson are one of the main suppliers of quality digital ink for inkjet printers, especially for inks for printing b&w on inkjets: therein lies the irony....

Cheers,