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    How to sabotage your own Petzval listing!

    This is a current listing, described as a Ross Cabinet no. 3. In reality, it is a no-name largish Portrait Petzval, marketed by W.Watson with his serial number.
    He has something of a stubborn streak as he replies to me after pointing this out:

    " It was sold to me as a Ross Lens by an antique lens dealer in London, so
    that's what I am selling it as."

    Now he says nothing about the glass in the listing, so he couldn't have been surprised by the published question:


    "Q: how about the glass of this lens,THANKS
    A: Yes, there is a lot of it. "

    No comment necessary.

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    Re: How to sabotage your own Petzval listing!

    No comment, too.
    Sometimes love just ain't enough.
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    Re: How to sabotage your own Petzval listing!

    hmm - yes - I just noticed an auction (not LF) on a Voigtländer Brilliant Mf camera with a Skopar lens....

    It didn't sell for his (far too high) reserve, so he re submitted it as a "Voigtländer Large format 6x9 Bergheil folding camera with a Heliar lens"... and it sold....

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    Re: How to sabotage your own Petzval listing!

    Quote Originally Posted by gandolfi View Post
    hmm - yes - I just noticed an auction (not LF) on a Voigtländer Brilliant Mf camera with a Skopar lens....

    It didn't sell for his (far too high) reserve, so he re submitted it as a "Voigtländer Large format 6x9 Bergheil folding camera with a Heliar lens"... and it sold....
    If someone sold me something as badly misrepresented as that, I'd kill him with negative feedback and file a complaint.

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    Re: How to sabotage your own Petzval listing!

    There's a bright side to this, since he's sabotaged his auction, there's a nice Watson portrait petzval to be had for cheap

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    Re: How to sabotage your own Petzval listing!

    Well he can't do any worse that the guy who, not surprisingly, did not get a $500 bid for a lens without any glass at all!

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    Re: How to sabotage your own Petzval listing!

    Quote Originally Posted by adelorenzo View Post
    Well he can't do any worse that the guy who, not surprisingly, did not get a $500 bid for a lens without any glass at all!
    "...this lens very good but without glass elements!"

    I, too, have an 8x10 Ebony for sale for $7500; it's just missing both standards and the focusing track, but it's a great camera.

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    Re: How to sabotage your own Petzval listing!

    Quote Originally Posted by adelorenzo View Post
    Well he can't do any worse that the guy who, not surprisingly, did not get a $500 bid for a lens without any glass at all!
    Think of it as a very fast vintage pinhole...
    "I love my Verito lens, but I always have to sharpen everything in Photoshop..."

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    Re: How to sabotage your own Petzval listing!

    Lens VM implies that these Cabinet Portrait series were instigated by Watson, himself. Which could explain the presence of a serial number. The Ross/Watson lens I have, has a very clear "Sold by Watson & Sons". Glass is 3" and the focal length is 10" on these.

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    Re: How to sabotage your own Petzval listing!

    Quote Originally Posted by adelorenzo View Post
    Well he can't do any worse that the guy who, not surprisingly, did not get a $500 bid for a lens without any glass at all!
    Well, think about it - it was, after all, that very rare thing that turns up at auction. A lens that does not have any 'cleaning wisps' that do not affect image quality....

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