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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    I have an Elite (5500)
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Hi guys,

    My ancient G4 Powermac has died and has been replaced by a G5 (couldn't find a G4 locally). The version of OS X that came with the G5 doesn't have Rosetta (OS 9) for this reason, I'm not...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Hi Bob,

    thanks for taking the time to write.



    I regularly drum scan medium format at 6000 spi and that resolution isn't "so high in the rarified air to be almost unworkable". Films like...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Since I didn't have a USAF 1951 chart, I used an Arri image analysis focus chart imaged on a 5 ISO negative by a laser recorder. Here are two 5300 spi scans of a section of that chart, with and...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Hi Bob, Peter;



    In my earlier tests, I ensured not to include the black mask overlay in my trim area, for the very reason you mention. There too, the resulting scans lacked the sharpness I...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    I think it was you (maybe someone else) who mentioned a vendor for the p99. I can't find it locally. Can you pls remind me? Was it Focal Point? I seem to recall there was another place where I could...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Big thanks!
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    I fluid mount when I drum scan but I've never done it on the Cezanne. Is 3mm the ideal thickness for p99 when used on the Cezanne?
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Peter,

    would you say that a sheet of mylar and mounting fluid would be enough to keep the film flat on the Cezanne? I guess it depends on the amount of curl... I've never fluid mounted on the...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    I will contact the Screen tech. The problem didn't arise after his visit though.
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Hi Peter, yes I was using the tray before. I'm using Screen's hold down tray for the Cezanne. The one with two black handles; there is only one way to place it on the scanning bed.

    Is there a...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Maybe this shows the issue more clearly
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    After several hours spent trying to find what is causing unsharp scans, I've just discovered that the retaining plate (the small rectangular anti newton rings tray) is creating issues. :confused:...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    That's right, something seems to have happened. First, though, I had the wrong scanning methodology: scanning long side of film parallel to scanning lamp instead of perpendicular to it. I'm now...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    the animated gifs I posted earlier were taken with a Hasselblad XPan. The lenses are excellent. I'll try what you suggest and scan b&w on both scanners.



    That's been my experience too. With the...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    I tried that too, but by scanning at 5300spi on the Cezanne before downsampling to 4000. And you're right, there is a difference, but it's not like night and day. I'll try to dig up a USAF chart and...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Not much of a difference in sharpness. Only better rolloff into highlights, as expected. If I sharpen heavily (smart sharpen 300, 0.3) then it looks closer to the Nikon scan. Which may confirm what...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Hi Kirk,

    yes, I'm familiar with Flexcolor and to turn off sharpening, one has to set it to -120 if my memory is correct.

    That said, it would appear that the Nikon resolves a tighter pattern of...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Here is the comparison between both scanners.

    I don't know if I'm expecting too much from the Cezanne or if the Nikon is just as good as the Cezanne. People seem to think it is isn't. And earlier...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Thanks a lot. This makes sense. I've just made a new scan with the shorter side of the film parallel to the scanning lamp. It's slightly better but the Nikon still looks sharper (yes, I double...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    I first place the film on the scanning bed, then the black mask over it, then the hold down tray. That's what the Screen manual recommends.

    I also tried putting the hold down tray on top of the...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    I'm scanning Xpan size negs (24x65mm). Initially I was scanning at 5300dpi on the Cezanne but started noticing softness in the scans. I then did a test at max resolution on the Nikon (4000dpi), with...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Hi Bob,

    I tried in different parts of the bed and all scans came back soft. I'm using the original bed and it is in very good condition. The thing that I don't understand is that the Cezanne...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    I tried giving the Cezanne a larger trim region hoping that would provide more visual detail for it to focus on, but no luck. The festival of softness is on. :(
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    The Nikon scans are not sharpened. I always turn sharpening off when I scan. The Cezanne doesn't sharpen nicely because the image is defocused to start with (bigger softer grain=poo when sharpened)
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    And a few screen grabs showing my settings.
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Make sure to view the attached file at 100% (click on the image to view full size).
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Here is a gif showing the difference between the Cezanne and the Nikon. I'll post screen grabs of my Color Genius settings shortly.
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Thanks Peter.

    There is a "high productivity" mode accessible via the "Setting expand" button. I did turn that off to check if it had an effect on my tests. Nothing changed, scans are still a fair...
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    Re: Screen Cezanne Users Unite

    Hi everyone,

    It seems I can't get a sharp scan with my Cezanne, no matter what I try.

    I'm scanning negs, using the black overlay and the anti-newton rings tray. Sharpening is turned off in...
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    Re: Cezanne Lamps + ColorGenius Question

    I did ask, but as you guessed, not much help there.

    And now , new issue. After many tries, I can't get a sharp scan with the Cezanne... Sigh.

    Will post about it in the main thread.
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    Re: Cezanne Lamps + ColorGenius Question

    Thanks Peter. This confirms what I thought. Screen wasn't able to tell me apart from the cost of the latest version of ColorGenius (around 1500EUR if I remember correctly. Gasp).
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    Re: Cezanne Lamps + ColorGenius Question

    Can someone please confirm that it is NOT possible to tweak SD and HD points with Color Genius version 2 or EX, when scanning negatives.

    I only have version 1 of the software.

    Thanks!!
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    Re: Cezanne Lamps + ColorGenius Question

    Thanks to everyone for your input.

    Peter (York), ColorNeg/ColorPerfect (CNCP) is the method I'm starting to use. However, for best results, it's best to feed it a purely linear file, with no color...
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    Re: Cezanne Lamps + ColorGenius Question

    Hi Peter,

    I've got an Elite, so the lamps are different (two in the bottom tray for reflective) and a single lamp in the upper tray for transmissive. I just removed the bottom lamps and I can...
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    Re: Cezanne Lamps + ColorGenius Question

    Thanks a lot for the lamp info Bob. I'll keep the reflection lamps as spares.

    Scanning negs as positives and inverting in photoshop doesn't give good results...

    Also, if you have a particular...
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    Cezanne Lamps + ColorGenius Question

    Hi all,

    I recall a thread in which several Screen Cezanne users mentioned that it was possible to scan film with only one of the two bottom tray lamps. Is this correct?

    Also, I'd like to find...
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    Peter,

    thanks a lot for the information! I'll look into ordering a sheet to cover the whole bed and also several rectangles, as per Bob's suggestion. This way, I can tackle large originals and a...
  39. Replacement for Cezanne ANR glass retaining plate

    Hi,

    is anyone here using anti newton glass from Focal Point (http://fpointinc.com/glass.htm) as a replacement for the original Screen Cezanne 'transparent original retaining plate'? If so, which...
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    Re: Cezanne Color Genius question

    Hi Peter,

    that's a good idea. Thank you! I actually shot macbeth charts on several film stocks last year, they will come in handy!

    Still pretty incongruous that Screen would allow users to do...
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