Re: Whats the verdict on Adobe CC?
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Yes, that is how Adobe drives sales of new software. They only include support for new camera raw files, new lens correction profiles, and support for new software features (such as content-aware fill or camera shake correction) in the latest versions of the software. So if you upgrade your camera, or lenses, or just want the latest and greatest features, you have to upgrade.
This is partly true. Adobe does provide updates to the ACR plugin for newer cameras in later versions of Photoshop for older versions. I have CS 6 and I receive ACR updates, but no new features for Photoshop itself. Please see this link.
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Re: Whats the verdict on Adobe CC?
But at some point current ACR itself will not still be compatible with with CS6 I believe so eventually they will cut you off. Then you will have issues if you buy a new camera.
Re: Whats the verdict on Adobe CC?
If I'm understanding correctly, No one has yet said that they actually tried CC and did not like it or canceled their subscription.
So the people that use it, like it. Or at the very least say that nothing else yet meets their needs.
None of the people in favor of other programs have used CC? Or did I miss something?
If this is correct it seems kind of a no brainer to me.
Thank you all for your input.
Re: Whats the verdict on Adobe CC?
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Originally Posted by
photonsoup
If I'm understanding correctly, No one has yet said that they actually tried CC and did not like it or canceled their subscription.
So the people that use it, like it. Or at the very least say that nothing else yet meets their needs.
None of the people in favor of other programs have used CC? Or did I miss something?
If this is correct it seems kind of a no brainer to me.
Thank you all for your input.
I think you are correct. We that use CC like it and the rest don't. Simple really.
Re: Whats the verdict on Adobe CC?
I used to stay current with Photoshop (mostly because I teach Photoshop). But I really don't want to be renting software. So I decided to stick with CS6 until there is a compelling reason to go to CC. My primary digital cameras are a D810 and D800E and I don't expect to replace them anytime soon. They are so good I can't foresee any new features that would cause me to want to upgrade enough to have to pay $10/month for the rest of my photography life. Windows 8 reaches end of life in 2023 and I expect CS6 to run on Windows 10. So no worries about RAW conversion or not bring able to have current computer that CS6 will run on. And I haven't seen any CC features that I would really take advantage of.
I processed over 8,000 photos last year for my current book that will be released later this year. Never once did I find myself wishing I had a CC feature. So where Adobe once got $200 or $300 every 1.5 years, they have not and will not get any anytime soon. The product is so mature the new features just aren't that compelling - just like Microsoft could have stopped updating Word ten years ago.
If I were in a position of starting out with Photoshop, I think I would find a friend who switched to CC and buy their PS6 install CD and license from them.
Re: Whats the verdict on Adobe CC?
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Originally Posted by
photonsoup
If I'm understanding correctly, No one has yet said that they actually tried CC and did not like it or canceled their subscription.
So the people that use it, like it. Or at the very least say that nothing else yet meets their needs.
My opinion:
I've used Light room + Photoshop since LR 2.0 and Photoshop + Bridge before that. Been using Photoshop since v7, probably about 10 or 15 years ago.
In the interim I've tried Paintshop Pro, The Gimp (which is great considering it's free), Apple Aperture + iPhoto, the Nikon programs, and probably some others that I'm forgetting. Nothing come close to Adobe products. Yes they aren't perfect. Yes they will suck down your computer's ram and processing power like a frat boy sucking down beers. Yes adobe bungled the Creative Suite -> Creative Cloud launch.
But, it's still the best software for photography hands down. Creative Cloud version of Photoshop + Lightroom is $10 a month. This used to cost about $1000 every couple years when new CS versions came out. Now, you're paying $120/yr instead of maybe double to quadruple that (depending on how often you upgrade). It's not a bad deal these days, really.
Re: Whats the verdict on Adobe CC?
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fishbulb
Creative Cloud version of Photoshop + Lightroom is $10 a month. This used to cost about $1000 every couple years when new CS versions came out. Now, you're paying $120/yr instead of maybe double to quadruple that (depending on how often you upgrade). It's not a bad deal these days, really.
Let's look at correct numbers. I paid $221.60 for CS6 upgrade in 2012. I know I paid extra to get the CD but I don't know how much. But that would be $12/mo. if I upgraded every 18 months. Or $6/month if upgraded every other version, which is what many people did (and is where I am at since I am still using and felling no pain nor envy). The biggest difference is that with the purchase you would not lose access to your image files. With CC, if you stop paying, you no longer have software to access your .psd files. You want to make a print? Too bad. You want to make a jpg for a web site? Too bad. How confident is anyone that when they retire they can continue to pay the monthly fee? Doctor bills, prescription medicine, hospital bills,... $10/month assuming it stays that low, might be a hard nut to pay.
Would you rather pay $120 a month to own a car or $100 a month to lease? At least with a car you have the option.
Re: Whats the verdict on Adobe CC?
Gimp can open PSD files and probably others too. Why assume that sometime in the future only PS will be able to utilize PSD files when it is not even true now? If I were to make a guess I would think there would be more in the future. Look, right now IMHO CC LR and PS is really a no brainer if one expects to be working files with any camera vaguely new at any given time and I personally will for the foreseeable future. I'd love to see real competition to PS and LR-not just some lame alternative that only an avowed Adobe hater could love.
Re: Whats the verdict on Adobe CC?
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Originally Posted by
Kirk Gittings
Gimp can open PSD files and probably others too. Why assume that sometime in the future only PS will be able to utilize PSD files when it is not even true now? If I were to make a guess I would think there would be more in the future. Look, right now IMHO CC LR and PS is really a no brainer if one expects to be working files with any camera vaguely new at any given time and I personally will for the foreseeable future. I'd love to see real competition to PS and LR-not just some lame alternative that only an avowed Adobe hater could love.
OK. I will change my statement to say that if you want to work with your .psd file, you;ll have to use some lame alternative. Still not a situation that I want to be in.
Re: Whats the verdict on Adobe CC?
Obviously this is a ridiculous discussion.
Users and abusers.