I would like to see some home made cameras. I have plans to make a LF camera and would like to see your designs. I would like to build 4x5, 5x7 and 8x10 P&S cameras.
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I would like to see some home made cameras. I have plans to make a LF camera and would like to see your designs. I would like to build 4x5, 5x7 and 8x10 P&S cameras.
I'm working on it as fast as I can. I have the plans in my head and started drawing them last week as I sat in the pub. I bought the wood. I need to talk with the bellows people, but I haven't selected anybody for that yet. I have some gears and springs from a friends camera. It will be a 4x5 with limited movements (just the ones I use) and not made to fold up as this limits the ease of use. More as I go.
There are several examples on the French LF web site galerie-photo.com
Laurent Barthélémy, a wooden 4x5 camera http://www.galerie-photo.com/construire-sa-chambre.html
Vincent Cabanes, a 6x6 (cm) precision monorail camera http://www.galerie-photo.com/constru...ambre-6x6.html
Bernard Ardaud, a wooden 6x17 for ski-mountaineering http://www.galerie-photo.com/chambre...-montagne.html
and a lightweight 4x10"
http://www.galerie-photo.com/constru...mbre-4x10.html
Gilles Barbier, a wooden fixed-focus wide-angle camera
http://www.galerie-photo.com/barbier-hybis-90.html
obscura camera a swiss-made wooden 4x5
http://www.galerie-photo.com/obscura...hatellard.html
http://www.galerie-photo.com/obscura...piccolino.html
Renald Ozeel, a precision wide-angle 4x5 camera
http://www.galerie-photo.com/chambre-legere-4x5.html
a 4x5 pinhole camera
http://www.galerie-photo.com/stenope-renald-ozeel.html
François Besson a 360° panoramic Roto-Pinhole camera
http://www.galerie-photo.com/eloge-roto-stenope.html
Here's a P+S 4x5 I made... I aborted this particular design and designed its successor in 3D CAD. Someday I'll get the CAD model 3D printed so I can test it out!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/3...12bb90eb23.jpg
I made this one about 4 years ago and haven't really used it since initial tryouts. I need to get/make some better pinholes and some kinda viewfinder. The material is 1/2" gatorboard, clothespins, bamboo print tongs, photo black paper tape. Gatorfoam is extremely light, rigid and machinable with a knife. Maybe I'll mess with it this week and post back with my results.
Some new prototypes from the Swiss Obscura Camera team as shown last week-end at the annual friendly gathering & print exchange organised by Henri Gaud
A 4x5" with a reflex viewer, plus a stereo camera for the 4x5" format !
http://trichromie.free.fr/trichromie...chaux-de-fonds
a larger format (8x10" ?)
http://trichromie.free.fr/trichromie...chines-suisses
Hello,
This Suisse camera is a 12x12 inch fix focus
And 2 bottles at beginning,
And after we don't say how many Chablis bottle we drink,
But we are 21 for look thoses camera.
http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/m..._2008/box2.jpg
5x7 + 120 superAngulon
Chris, would you mind posting an image or two of the back of your 57? I would like to see how you integrated a 57 back to the "box".
Thanks!
Thanks for posting the extra images Chris and all your other informative posts on this board.
I know that you use a 180 with this "box" normally. How does the front move to accept the 120 for focusing?
That's so awesome Chris. The built-in front rise is a great idea.
My 5x7 PS with Nikkor SW 90/f8. Back is from a Kodak or Burke and James 8x10 to 5x7 reducing back. GL is a Canham fresnel. My wood working skill is terrible but it works. :p
[QUOTE=Robert Fisher;439392..... know that you use a 180 with this "box" normally. How does the front move to accept the 120 for focusing?[/QUOTE]
Sorry, fixed focus with the 120. Fixed with glue. A 180 is standard for me on Linhof.
Chris and others, is there focus on these PS cameras? Do you use one of those helicals (?) or is there a simpler way?
makes me want a LF p&s more and more
It's a shame focusing helicals are so expensive. Otherwise, it'd be easy/cheap to cobble something together.
Eric and dazedgonebye, I am using one of this (or similar to this):http://cgi.ebay.com/Helical-focus-fo...3%3A1|294%3A50
The helical mount would have been nice but there is not much need for focus in landscape. I shimmed my box just short of infinity and normally shoot at f45. A press shutter would have been a greater improvement.
Has anyone looked at the focusing helicals from Mamiya Super and Universal Press cameras, not to mention Polaroid 600SE and Graflex XL.... there are plenty of those old lenses out there with focus helicals in the Mamiya Super/Graflex XL graveyard. Just counting the Mamiya, there were helicals for 50MM, 65MM, 75MM, 127MM, 150MM. Same or more for the Graflex XL's.
talking about graflex xl helical. They're really easy to broke ( plastic) and hard to fucus. Nguyen
Two major problems I found were viewfinders and helical focus devices. Helical focus are expensive except those mencioned by John Hoang, wich I found this week on ebay.
I am dealing with 3 diferente designs and I have 2 lenses to use in a Point&Shoot 4x5 camera that I want to build, one is a Schneider Super Angulon 65/8, the other is a Schneider Super Angulon 47/5.6 XL. It's not easy to find a cheap viewfinder for either of these lens. I think the Gaoersi viewfinder will be the cheapest one wich can deal with a 47mm lens.
I'm still not sure about the design, I have parts of a Cambo Portrait, parts of a Cambo Legend 8x10 from wich I have several backs, lensboards, etc. I have plans and the necessary tools to build a wooden P&S camera, but still thinking about finding the best choice.
As Allen pointed out early in this thread, two bottles but did you all 21 drink of the same glass?
@ Jan Pedersen
If you want to know more about us you can see this links
Yes we drink Chablis with many glass.
http://trichromie.free.fr/trichromie...c-ste-vronique
You have your information ;-)
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two bottles but did you
Henri Gaud only allows disposable styrofoam coffee cups for wine tasting, in order that the proper temperature is maintained throughout the whole session ;)
I take the opportunity that we have and Oregonian citizen on-line : we should try to convince Henri Gaud to visit Oregon some day. He could combine some new photographic subjects for the tri-color process and at the same time enjoy some of the best Riesling wines of the New World.
Does the Columbia river gorge (or wherever Oregonian Riesling is made) still produce those excellent white wines I experienced 20 years ago ?
[NOW BACK TO THE TOPIC]
An alternative to true helicals is simply to allow a wooden box to slide inside another.
One should keep in mind the simple design rule:
The amount of travel of the whole lens, required to change focus from infinity to one metre (3") is equal to the square of the focal length in milliimetres, divided by 1000.
For examples with a 90 mm, the required travel is 90x90/1000 = i.e. about 8 mm (approx 5/16")
This is still within reach of a wooden sliding box.
For a 55 mm, things become tricky 55x55 / 1000 = about 3 mm (approx 1/8") ; there, you need an helical.
Good food, good wine, good company and good photography,
does life get any better? :)
Well done Henri,
c'est ginale.
http://trichromie.free.fr/trichromie...oc-fvrier-2008
@ Allen
You can come in France
The next "Sainte Veronique" en 2010 is for 6 fabruary about 18 h in afternoon
You are welcome
If you make some photography for change
And you can drink Chablis with us :)
Here are some of the most perfect home made cameras I've ever seen.
Part 1
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/557...1212984tz0.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6240/5x7034ox3.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/975...ntkirbyeo9.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2767/6947xu9.jpg
1. Thanks Emmanuel for that great info.
2. Nana, those cameras are undoubtedly beautiful, well designed, and made. But for ones without mechanical and/or wood working skills - like me - it's better to do it quick or buy one and save time for shooting.
I once bought a Gaoersi 4x5. It's a very good camera for the money but doesn't fit very well together with my Canham 5x7 in the backpack unless I take the lens-lens board assembly off the body. It's a pain putting the lens on and off. Also, the lens is dedicated to that camera until you remove it from the lens board. It's the task not easy to do on the field.
The one I made now allows the lens to be used interchangeably with just a flip and stored flat in my backpack with the lens off.
I'm always envious of the people with skills to build those cameras. I've long fancied a 4x5, 65mm point and shoot.
There is a guy that sells large format pinhole cameras on ebay. Seems like a good source for a light tight box with a back. Cut out a bit of the front and mount a focusing helical and you'd be done.
I might get around to something like that some day.
Every year I say to myself........next year, Perpignan!!
And every year, another year goes by and it becomes "next year" :(
i will add Sainte Veronique to the list.
I make pictures every day, just pictures that others tell me to make.
A nice change would be to make more pictures that I want to make.
I go green with envy when I see the work of Jim K's hiking trips with Alex, Juri's country sides and so many other's work.....ok back to work on the backlog of Canon digi files. :-(
I love the Cambo in the first-
that's by far the most sensible approach,
and I might try it with an Arca 171 sometime-
The second is wonderful,
I particularly like the eyelets- though the cone is impressive too.
without seeing the other side though, difficult to know-
Part 2, no.1, that's a beauty-
though it looks like 2x3, but I don't know-
The fourth, nice too, but lacking in shadow detail-
The first of the third looks interesting too-
a camera like that could open some doors for you...
Sorry. Looks great though-
The second also, love the handgrip-
though the actuation of the shutter shouldn't really be on the camera, ideally, no?
The last one is just brilliant, lovely looking-
reckon it would be good handheld too-
There were a couple of cameras posted here by bglick recently
in the 'Updated Graphic - Max. print size for 5 formats ' thread-
which surpassed all of my preconceptions about what 'homemade' meant-
unfortunately, I can't link to the pictures,
because the posts have been deleted by the moderators-
j
Indeed, joseph, this one, is my favourite, it has rise and fall, here goes a couple more photos.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2852/img36ip9.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8866/img37aq0.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/945/img48vn7.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9595/img46ph6.jpg
here some thing nice i see
more
I hope this nice change for you !!!
http://www.galerie-photo.com/canham-11x14.html
One of my nice change :)
It is a commercial machine, not a "do it your self"