Hello! I'm looking for a camera bag or backpack for my RW810. I heard about Tenba bags.. Do you have some propositions for me? Help me ;), thanks!
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Hello! I'm looking for a camera bag or backpack for my RW810. I heard about Tenba bags.. Do you have some propositions for me? Help me ;), thanks!
Tenba is very good.
Also look at Lowepro. http://www.lowepro.com/Products/Backpacks/allWeather/
ThinkTank has an interest backpack. http://www.rotation360.com/
There is also F.64 and others. Here's a good list. http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/a...siteSection=26
Don't forget Tamrac. http://www.tamrac.com/
Hope that helps broaden the search.
I've been very happy with my f64 backpack though I use it for long walks, not camping trips. It wouldn't be big enough by itself for an 8x10 system plus food and a lot of camping gear. But for day hikes it's very good - large enough to hold an 8x10 camera, three medium size lenses on boards, light meter, filters, loupe, and three holders. I've used it with two Deardorffs and a Kodak 2-D. It works better with a clam shell design camera such as the Deardorff rather than a tail board like the 2-D because of the depth of the latter with tail board. But it will work with that type camera, things are just a tighter fit. Since it isn't heavily padded the weight of the pack alone isn't bad, unlike some of the big, padded packs from LowePro et al.
bags for alpinist ropes... in france, quechua (decathlon) sell the Vuarde 40 for 50 euros !
http://www.quechua.com/EN/Product_ar...646/index.html
I have an f64 pack that I don't like. I'm looking at the photobackpacker system.
Cheers,
Mark
I have an older Lowepro PhotoTrekker AW that I like quite a bit. I don't shoot much 8x10 (4x5 almost exclusively at this point) but can pack my camera, 4 or 5 lenses, tons of film holders, plus a Mamiya 7 and a couple lenses, plus all the accessories pretty easily in it. The straps are heavily padded and placed well for me (6'1") to distribute the weight well. It's not the lightest bag out there, but it's comfortable, carries well, and has served me very well for years on some heavy travels. A friend remarked the other day how impressed he was with how well it's held up. I have used it to carry an 8x10 'dorf and it worked well. The film holders are the killer with 8x10. I was carrying 5 holders and one lens. Could have carried another lens or two.
I have a Lowepro Phototrekker AW as well. Its a heavy duty piece of gear and certainly can carry a lot of 8x10 stuff!
This bag looks good but I can't tell what size it is...
inside : 35x52x17cm
a 8x10 sinar norma fits in it !
my norma in it ...http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/3955/normawebrz7.jpg
f64 works well for me (wista 8x10, film holders, 5x7 reducing back, lenses, etc.). But the weak link in all of the packs I've looked at is carrying the tripod. Either it's too far back (straped in center), or the load is lopsided (there's a limited ability to counter-balance the tripod weight because of size of 8x10 outfit fills most of the pack) if carried on the side. Slung below the pack width-wise is usually too wide, plus the weight is too low, and slung along the top doesn't work well as none of the packs have a good setup for this. I end up carrying mine in my hands, and the wrists and arms get tired after a bit. Not a lot of thought has gone into carrying tripod for these packs unfortunately.
I guess that it depends on your priorities. For my Wehman 8x10 I wanted a back pack, but not an expensive, serious "I could climb a mountain with this thing!" pack. I made a cardboard box the same size as the Wehman and spent a couple of weeks visiting stores to see what they had. I ended up with a Spaulding day pack from Kmart for $20. The Wehman, along with the focusing cloth, fits easily into the main compartment. There's another compartment into which go my two lenses on lensboards (in padded wraps), loupe, notepad, cable releases, filters and filter holder, etc. Finally, there's one more small compartment which carries my meter, blow-bulb, and so on. It has a mesh pocket for a bottle of water and room for a couple of film holders if I wanted to put them in (I prefer a seperate, padded bag for my film holders, though.) The tripod is on a sling and goes over one shoulder; film holders in an insulated cooler bag balance it out by going over the other. Works well for a couple of miles at least.
Wore myself out last weekend, but that was just me overdoing it. Too much of a couch potato over the winter: as I "mature" I have to learn to ease back into physical activities after a long layoff.
Mike
I would recommend sticking to high quality brand names in backpacks. Everyone uses the same cloth but many bags/packs can't handle loads over time and the seams start to seperate. A lot of these bags are made in China.
I had it happen to me with a soft brief case I was given. It looked good and felt sturdy but I had no need for it. I ended up using it to carry my jumper cables in the back of my truck. I hardly ever moved them but the bag started falling apart within six months. I had to throw it away.
Well, I am also looking for a good backapck for my 4x5 field setup. Just recently I had a look on a Lowepro backpack - it was Compu-trekker (the only lowepro the give shop had available at a time) - and it was also signed - Made in China .....
But I do agree - I had a look on some "low name" photo backpacks and would get none of them for harder use..
Not to ressurect a dead thread or anything, but I am thinking about this with my first 8x10 camera on the way.
I have the phototrekker AWII for my 4x5 system and it's already pretty cramped with a shenhao, 9 fidelity-style holders, 2 lenses in lens wraps, and filters & meter. I was wondering if I could use it for 8x10, but I sure don't see how. Got any pictures of yours?
8x10s vary a lot. My Shen FCL will fit a laptop/messenger style bag. With room for film holders left over. Other 8x10s might need a moving van.
I agree with Paul, I have tried several brands of packs, including regular hiking backpacks assuming they are easier on the back than traditional photographic backpacks...they all work well enough to a certain degree but the tripod, given its shape and weight, specially one that can hold up an 810, just doesn't sit well any where on any packs; far side of the pack-it's too far from the center of gravity, on the top-the pack surface is thing thus the tripod weight rests on either lenses or accessories(I assume everyone packs the same way, the camera on the bottom while the lens sits on top), either side of the pack creates serious in balance in weight distribution.
The way I see it, is some sort of pack that wraps around the tripod so the tripod sits on the same weight plane relative and close to the back...but this mean both the wide side of the camera and the holders have to sit will need to sit either 90 degree or 45 degree to the back, thus creating a much thicker(higher) pack...
I wonder if the military has any better solution since they do deal with large and heavy pieces on top of their backpacks
That would be the Large ALICE pack used in the arctic (among other places) It can hold more than most people can safely carry. I tried one for awhile with home made padding but it didn't really work that well as a camera bag for me. Maybe a better solution (if you want to pursue the military surplus route) is a pack board in conjunction with a hard suitcae fitted for your gear---pack boards have become more difficult to find these days. IMHO the best ones were the moulded plywood versions but like I said, they're rare.
For carrying an 8x10 tripod long dstance, I'd opt for a rifle sling.
By far the best solution for packing an 8x10 in the woods is a mule!
Either a mule replacing the mule that we are, or a love one (how one dreams:D)
If the rifle sling works anything like every other tripod sling or bag with sling, it's still not an optimum balance act in hiking over fair distance and rough terrains.
I suppose it's a price Lf exacts on all of those who need to work deep in the woods and far away from the car.
I recently picked up a Petrol 303 bag.
Holds:
Kodak Master 8x10
6 film holders
Schneider 300 in its box
Various photo accessories (light meter, loupe, etc)
15" laptop
My 8x10 tripod is too big & heavy to lash to a pack, making it awkward to take the pack off in order to get the camera out & set up a shot. Being able to unsling the tripod and set it up so its waiting for the camera works smoother for me. YMMV of course!
Mules are great company, btw:D You want one?;)
I've got an over the shoulder boulder holder---a GI surplus 5 gallon water can cooler, it cost me about $17 IIRC. Holds a V8 'dorff, four film holders, dark cloth, lens cleaning & filter kits, and a second lens on a board(with the prime lens reversed and stowed aboard the 'dorff. Its not a back pack but I find it works fine for short hikes.
Its a fashionable coyote tan!
I was using a Tenba Shootout Large pack for my C1. It worked ok. The C1 is a very tight fit. It held the Kowa 210mm on the camera and another lens in a side pouch (24" Artar or 300mm Heliar). 3 - maybe 4 8x10 film holders in the laptop slot. Tight fit and hurt my shoulders on long hikes.
I bought an Alice pack for cheap and got the molle kidney belt and shoulder straps. It definitely holds a lot more and I can feel the weight displacement is better than the Tenba as far as shoulder/hips. The problem with the Alice pack for me is I can still feel a bit of the frame through the kidney belt. I'll need to add extra padding there. But also the weight is too far out from my back. The space between the frame and my back is too large. This makes me lean forward a bit and I don't think that will help on long hikes. But it easily carries more than I need and I think the frame would help vs the Tenba.
Loaded up:
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4167/024xkg.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/610/028sii.jpg
I'd like something a lot more comfortable but I don't hike all that much, though when I do it can be strenuous. I've heard of using the extreme backpacker packs, multi day stuff like the Osprey gear. I am sure they are more comfortable but I don't know how well they'd fit my C1. A straight up Molle pack would solve the weight being too far from my pack but the frame is plastic I believe and they are more expensive.
(the bag I mentioned above)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7183/6...669b76ef_b.jpg
I personally prefer the f.64 backpack for 8x10. It fits my Deardorff perfectly along with a few extra items. When I had a Wista 8x10, the Lowepro Photo Trekker was perfect for it, and I could even load 3 film holders in it. I got mine for cheap since it was a model from the 80's.
I have one of these for my 4x5, would be great for an 8x10 as well.
http://fstopgear.com/images/stories/...workbook16.jpg
John, The only problem with 810 is that the dimension of the bag is 10" Depth x 12" Wide x 22" Tall.
14" wide would fit most 810 comfortably.
Oops, sorry I didn't check width. The sides of the ICUs can flex out a bit; internal size on mine is 10.6", but I'd think about 11.5" would be the limit. Disregard.
does somebody uses a bag with 8x10 also for ski hiking?
I just bought an EVOC CP 35L bag, and I'm very happy with it.
It holds the Toyo 810M, three big lenses, three film holders and all the other stuff you need.
Anthony posted a mini-review here: http://www.largeformatphotography.in...-format-camera
thank you ! i will have a look
I've already preached about old-school external-frame packs on related threads, so won't repeat much here. Getting out in serious weather is an application where
you want more than just your camera gear. But I like real packs (versus "camera packs') even for the 8x10 system itself. Plus you need something seriously stiff
if you're going to work with a big wooden tripod (recommended in the snow). Camera packs were never designed for serious loads or bulk, and anything 8x10 is
stretching the capacity of that kind of concept.
Here you go, il mil amico:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7423/...a78e32f9_z.jpg
Three lenses, accessories, lens hood, and of course, the camera. The pack is upright here, so things are sagging a little, but nothing moves inside when you're walking around.
Very, very good pack.
well, it seems touching perfect, thanks for showing Ari ^^
You're welcome.
Choice of bag for me is determined by:
How much stuff to take
How organised do I need to be (according to amount of stuff)
How far to walk
For me the Photobackpacker system has changed everything for the better. It works differently from the usual camera backpack in that it is a suspension system rucksack, similar to those used by serious hikers and mountaineers, but inside it has a looped backing board onto which with hook panels (Velcro style hook and loop) you hang padded boxes that protect your equipment. I bought one a while ago for 8x10 and liked it so much I bought another for my whole plate set up.
Easy to cope with extra stuff if needs be.
Very organised indeed. (As a chaotic person by habit this system gently imposes order, with a SAFE place for everything and everything in its SAFE place.)
The system fits so perfectly to the torso that it feels as though one is carrying less than is really the case. This reduces fatigue and/or increases range.
RR
I had a Photobackpacker custom case made for my Ritter... it works, but it really tests the bag. The width of the Ritter is JUST wide enough that is basically looks like the bag is pushed to its extreme dimensions. When carried it looks like a giant rectangle on my bag, there is no play, just hard angles. It fits my glass, supplied by Bruce for 2 6x6 lenses. All in all the bag is amazing, weight distribution is amazing and it blows the pants off the f64 XL.
I know that lens!Quote:
Schneider 150 XL.