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Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Out of pure private interest I have created a short survey on large format photography. The objective of this survey is to get an idea on the current usage of large format cameras. The survey runs from December 1 till December 31, 2010. The data are collected out of private interest; there is no commercial intention behind it. The results will be announced on the http://www.largeformatphotography.info forum and published early 2011 on http://infocast.nl.
If you use a large format camera, I would highly appreciate if you could spend the time to complete this survey.
You can find the survey at: The Large Format Photography Survey
In case you have questions, please let me know.
With kind regards,
Barend Jan de Jong
http://infocast.nl
P.S. For the survey I use a free survey facility. This facility is being paid for by some advertisements. I hope that these do not bother you to much.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
What questions are asked on the survey?
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Dear Ron,
The following 10 questions are being asked in the survey:
1. What is your favorite large format camera that you use? (brand and type) - only one please
2. What is your the film-size you use for large format most frequently?
3. What is the film that is your current favorite? (brand and type) - only one please
4. Do you use for large format most of the time a completely analogue, hybrid or digital workflow?
5. Do you use a digital back on your large format camera? (If yes, please provide brand and type)
6. What is your favorite lens that you use? (brand and type) - only one please
7. Under which category would youl classify your large format work?
8. How many different large format pictures have you taken over the last 12 months? (note: field accepts only a number)
9. Website address (In case you want to share your website address)
10. Comment field - In case you want to share additional information.
You can find the survey here: The survey
With kind regards,
Barend Jan
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
A great way to gather private information under the guise of being pertainent to large format photography.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Dear Gem,
I feel sorry for your lack of trust. I am not gathering private information at all. If you do not want to share information, I can respect that, but please do not insinuate that there are inproper motivations behind my survey.
With kind regards,
Barend Jan
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
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Originally Posted by
Gem Singer
A great way to gather private information under the guise of being pertainent to large format photography.
DON'T FALL FOR IT!
I didn't see any private data being requested.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Surely this is just collecting data for commercial product development and marketing decisions Are we interested in influencing available products in the future or not? Questions 3 and 9 are no go though.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Barend Jan,
Somehow I knew when I posted that you would protest and try to defend yourself.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I would like to know if you asked permission from the forum moderators before posting your survey.
This forum is constantly being bombarded with spam. Naturally, I am suspicious of anything that appears to be in that category.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Ralph,
Look at questions 3 and 9.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
As long as it is anonymous I have no problem with it.
The data may be helpful to someone contemplating offering a new LF related product.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Dear Gem,
I appreciate that you respond to my previous answer and that you ask open questions.
With regard to my survey, I am not aware that I should have asked the moderators. I do not think there is any harm in my questions, actually I suppose that there will be forum members are actually interested in the results. As mentioned I will publish the results on the forum once the survey and analysis are completed.
With kind regards,
Barend Jan
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Didn't anyone read the P.S. at the bottom of the post?
Sounds like a disclaimer to me.
Spammers are becoming more and more sophisticated in figuring out a means of obtaining free advertising space on the internet and clever techniques for building up their data bases.
I only hope this is not a spammer at work.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
My 8x10 is a Kodak 2-D. I would like to try out a Deardorff, Zone VI or a newer full featured camera in 8x10 such as Canham, Ritter or other modern camera of new manufacture.
My 4x5 kit was bought whole at one of the last big camera shows in Houston. It was a great deal on a complete shooter’s outfit. And yet, I might like to swap out a lens or two and maybe get a camera with longer bellows draw.
This survey is directed at reporting the gear we actually have and use. That is fine , as far as it goes, however this survey assumes that what I have is exactly what I want. This is not necessarily the case. Perhaps a follow-up survey would also be helpful. Another survey might ask similar questions about what we would like to use. These two surveys together would give a more complete picture.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
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Originally Posted by
Gem Singer
Ralph,
Look at questions 3 and 9.
Look at the survey! I don't think that Barend knows too much about film or LF. If he were a shill for Kodak or Ilford or who knows, then the questions would reflect some expertise. Are you sure your paranoia is justified? ;)
* 2. What is your the film-size you use for large format most frequently?
6x6 cm rollfilm cassette
6x7 cm rollfilm cassette
6x9 cm sheetfilm
* 7. Under which category would you classify your large format work?
Food
Barend: 120/220 roll film doesn't come in a cassette. It comes on a spool, like a spool of thread. Also, roll film is not normally used on a large format camera. 6x9 sheet film hasn't been produced for quite a while. While someone may have a camera which uses that format, it won't be their #1 rig. While an edible substance may be a part of a "still life" photograph, it won't be a seperate category. I think people photograph their pets more than they photograph their dinner plate.
I have no problem with the survey.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Dr. Singer, I don't sense any sinister espionage going on with the survey, but I respect your judgment. Still, what's wrong with a big company or a foreign government taking an interest in what LF users own and prefer?
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
William,
How do you know whether, when you click on the "survey" link in the post, a cookie isn't being planted in your computer?
Don't be surprised if you receive a PM or Email from someone in a foreign country offering a deal on a new type of penis enlarger.
After all, that is a type of large format, isn't it? (insert smiley face here).
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Frankly, I am with Gem Singer on this. The "survey" may be harmless but it doesn't belong here nevertheless. The OP could have just as easily asked the same questions via one of the polls that are often posted on this forum. bjdejong is a newbie gathering information on forum members by requesting that they transfer to another website to answer questions - that automatically makes the request suspect. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
It seems like data mining. The motivations aren't necessarily relevant. If you don't mind data mining then go for it.
He's asking us to go to another website to conduct a survey. There are all sorts of information security issues here from phishing to why are there advertisements on the site if this is just for personal interest?
I belong to to about half a dozen forums such as this and, to be honest, this is the only one where stuff like this pops up; where someone can join and post advertisements for their own businesses and data mine. Is there anyone filtering this stuff, such as a moderator?
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
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Originally Posted by
Pawlowski6132
Why don't we just ask the man why he's collecting this data?
Better yet, why not let him volunteer the reason.
I'm with Gem, Bryan and Bob on this, for similar concerns.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Has anyone taken the time to see his website? Besides me?
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
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Originally Posted by
Vaughn
Has anyone taken the time to see his website? Besides me?
Yes.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
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Originally Posted by
Merg Ross
Better yet, why not let him volunteer the reason.
I'm with Gem, Bryan and Bob on this, for similar concerns.
Really, though, what are you guys afraid of? What do you think's going to happen to you?
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Well, a couple of thoughts.
The OP is not a known member of the community, this would have gone far more smoothly if he had at least some history.
It's likely he's just attempting to fit in quickly, patience grasshopper....
The questions are pretty innoculus and other than i declined to give an email address I'm not too worried.
Bob
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
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Originally Posted by
Pawlowski6132
Really, though, what are you guys afraid of? What do you think's going to happen to you?
Really not afraid of anything, Pawlowski, jut a question of propriety. While infocast.nl might plant a cookie or be phishing for info, my best guess on the purpose of the post is this: bjdejong is a website/blog owner who includes advertisement on his page to produce some income (not that this kind of advertising produces any big $$$). The more traffic he can direct to his site/blog, the more income. Having no prior history with the Large Format Photography Forum makes it appear that the only purpose for the survey is to direct traffic to his site. He has never engaged in any discussions or shared any images on this forum, only asked (in his very first post) that we visit his site and take a survey (and then re-visit the site to see the results of the survey).
And BTW, when you name your photography site "infopost.nl", then ask people to visit it and take a survey, why would you NOT think that it might arouse suspicion?
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Pawlowski,
More likely than not, this is a perfectly innocent attempt by the OP to take a survey.
Best case: we helped a guy bring a gizmo to market that will revolutionize LF photography.
Worst case: by clicking on his link, we are planting a worm or virus in our computers that will eventually destroy our hard drives (I've had this happen). We will then be in for a time consuming, expensive repair, or possibly, a new computer.
Is it worth the gamble?
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
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Originally Posted by
Pawlowski6132
Really, though, what are you guys afraid of? What do you think's going to happen to you?
I am not living in fear. It is simply that as a contributor to this forum, I am puzzled by this initial post. How has the individual contributed anything meaningful to this forum to date?
For those who love to answer surveys, have at it.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
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Originally Posted by
Gem Singer
Pawlowski,
More likely than not, this is a perfectly innocent attempt by the OP to take a survey.
Best case: we helped a guy bring a gizmo to market that will revolutionize LF photography.
Worst case: by clicking on his link, we are planting a worm or virus in our computers that will eventually destroy our hard drives (I've had this happen). We will then be in for a time consuming, expensive repair, or possibly, a new computer.
Is it worth the gamble?
1. The link to the survey isn't a link to his site, but rather a quick and easy survey-making website, kwiksurveys.com. It is the survey-making/taking site that has the advertisements, NOT the OP's website. If you click on the ads, kwiksurveys makes money, not the OP. LOL
2. My virus scanner did not detect anything harmful. No problems there. Most viruses are harmless anyway, and can be removed very easily.
3. Cookies are everywhere, and you can turn them off, and/or delete them.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
I am willing to stand up and being counted as a LF shooter.
I use nearly discontinued film and ancient glass so I don't think I'm aiding any modern manufacturer. I'm urging other LF shooters to take the survey - I'm interested in seeing the results!
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
People, settle down.
This BJ seems to be an amateur photographer with an interest in finding out what others do. No harm done.
I just wished he spent more time at his real job and get my WK stock value back up!
Barend Jan, welkom laat eens wat werk zien op de forum!
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
The website associated with the poster is clearly a photo enthusiast's site. The survey asked for no personal information and I happily filled it out.
Mike
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Hi Barend
Just filled your survey out. Will be interesting to see survey results down the road. All but email address.
Seemed legit & harmless. Who knows, It could be used to strength the commitment of a few film manufacturers. If frogs had wings.:rolleyes:
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
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Originally Posted by
Robert Jonathan
1. The link to the survey isn't a link to his site, but rather a quick and easy survey-making website, kwiksurveys.com. It is the survey-making/taking site that has the advertisements, NOT the OP's website. If you click on the ads, kwiksurveys makes money, not the OP. LOL
Ah! I stand corrected. Thanks Robert.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Even as a long-time member and contributor to this forum, I encountered some of the same opposition from this forum's conspiracy theorists when I posted a poll about a year ago. :confused:
If you find such polls objectionable or think there are black helicopters involved, then just don't respond. But to take the time to look, comment, and complain.... geez.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
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Originally Posted by
Michael Gordon
Even as a long-time member and contributor to this forum, I encountered some of the same opposition from this forum's conspiracy theorists when I posted a poll about a year ago. :confused:
If you find such polls objectionable or think there are black helicopters involved, then just don't respond. But to take the time to look, comment, and complain.... geez.
.......and if you find such conspiracy theories objectionable and think there are knee-jerk reactionaries involved, then just don't respond. But to take the time to look, comment, and complain......geez. ;) :eek: :p
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
survey completed.
I wish some fields were multiple choice... but there ya go. :)
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
I assume there must be at least a couple of members of this forum who wear aluminum foil hats to keep the outer space aliens from bombarding their brains with harmful rays?:)
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Deane Johnson,
I don't wear an aluminum foil hat, but I do wear wear a fireproof coat to ward off flames from individuals like you.
I sincerely hope that the OP's survey proves to be on the up and up.
However, if it's not, I would rather be safe than sorry.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
I am not afraid.
Besides, I didn't mention you.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
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Originally Posted by
Deane Johnson
I assume there must be at least a couple of members of this forum who wear aluminum foil hats to keep the outer space aliens from bombarding their brains with harmful rays?:)
Hey, don't make fun of my hat. I like my hat. Beam me up, Scotty!
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
I just filled it out. It seems pretty innocuous, and more importantly-pretty lame, as far as surveys go......
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Holy sh!t page four of this forum post I found super funny.
Thanks for the laughs!
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
In honor & memory of Ben van Meerendonk, the Amsterdam-Rotterdam Street Photographer, and admiration for his son Ben, and daughter-in-law Coco, I completed the survey.
Bernie Kaye
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Dear all,
The response on the survey is rather good. I did not expect such a high response over the first day. In The Netherlands large format has been driven to the background and I suspect that there aren't many people using it actively. So, I am pleased to see that there are still quite a few people around that have their heart and mind dedicated to LF.
From some of the comments I read the wish that I should have used more multiple choice in my survey. The reason that I didn't is confirmed to be a valid one by the initial answers. The variety of cameras and lenses being in use is enormous. And as soon as you make a list you will be told to have forgotten relevant ones, or included obscure ones. Making a good survey is not easy at all, and different people will have different quality criteria.
I also did choose to ask for the favorite pieces of equipment. The reason behind this is that most of you are likely to have more equipment in your camera bag than what you actually use. To get an idea of what one's favorite is, is in many cases more relevant.
Some questions and notes asked for my photo's and experience with Large Format. Yes, indeed, I am a photo enthiousast. I have a Wista 45SP that I have been using for a couple of years about 15 years ago, mainly with a roll film cassette and some 4x5. (you can find some of my pictures on my blog at http://infocast.nl) It has been sitting on my shelves for about 10 years or so, but back in my mind it kept on nagging: I should continue with that chapter in my life. Currently I am validating an hybrid workflow for TMY, and hope to do some 4x5 portraits soon. My biggest struggle is to find the necessary time - as someone noted, I also have a full time job to take care of.
To comment on some of the shared fears, and the aluminium foil. I look to it this way, indeed the internet is like life itself a dangerous place. That does not prevent me to live life with the assumption that people are of good will. Every now and then I encounter people that proof that this assumption can not be sustained for everyone, but overall it works out quite well (for me at least).
Further I notice that some people share quite a bit about themselves on this public forum. Much more than what my anonymous survey is asking for. It is interesting to see these reactions and wonder what they actually mean.
As mentioned before, the survey will continue to be open till the end of this year. The analysis will be published early next year.
You can reach the survey at: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
With kind regards,
Barend Jan
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Barend Jan,
Most new members use their first post(s) to introduce themselves to the forum, ask specific questions about problems they are having, and/or offer to add their expertise to the community.
You, on the other hand, asked for information in the form of a survey. A most unusual way to introduce yourself.
This forum is bombarded with spam on a daily basis. Naturally, myself and a few others were suspicious of your intensions.
I did not mean to insult your integrity. Please accept my apology for doubting your motives.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Hi Gem,
Thank you for explaining your previous reactions. I understand where you and maybe some others are coming from; I would have appreciated if it had resulted in a direct question to me instead of drawing conclusions on incomplete information. But anyway, I fully accept your apology.
In case you would like to learn more about who you are communicating with, I guess there is more information about me on the net than I would like. The best place is probably my blog http://infocast.nl.
Nice meeting you in this virtual universe,
With kind regards,
Barend Jan
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My biggest problem with the survey is again, the lack of multiple inputs for a given field. I don't use just one film - I have three favorites, each of which has a distinct purpose. I have one specific camera brand that's a favorite, but no one camera - I've got several all-purpose cameras, and a couple dedicated purpose cameras. This goes double for lenses - it depends very much on what I'm shooting subject-wise, and what camera I'm taking out for a stroll. To try and force this into a single selection is a gross over-simplification.
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LOL some of you guys! It's not like he was saying he was a Nigerian prince that would give us a new Ebony if we filled in our bank account info. I answered the survey. Mostly, I'm curious what everyone else checked off.
Kent in SD
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
Filled in - and my computer still works :D
But I agree that the survey could have been a bit more ... though out. It would be actually an interesting topic for a forum thread ;) I personally do not miss multiple choices - I miss additional questions that could say more about LF community and could therefore be more interesting to others too.
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Re: Large Format Photography - 2010 Survey
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Originally Posted by
Two23
LOL some of you guys! It's not like he was saying he was a Nigerian prince that would give us a new Ebony if we filled in our bank account info. I answered the survey. Mostly, I'm curious what everyone else checked off.
Kent in SD
You mean I'm not getting a new Ebony?