Re: More Kodak discontinuations
Heck, a billion ain't nothin. If they merely tapped into the golden parachutes paid out
to every CEO who wrecked an American company in the last few years, they could get
ten times that amount, not to mention hedge fund mgrs who are betting against the
system anyway.
Re: More Kodak discontinuations
Current 8x10 320TXP status:
Glazer's - still 3 boxes
Adorama - still out-of-stock
B&H - down to 18 boxes
Badger - still 50 boxes
I suspect when B&H runs out and its free shipping offer is no longer a draw, Jeff will begin to see his stock move quickly.
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John NYC
Yes but I made the statement that potential buyers need to have money. Pentax and Hasselbad probably don't have a billion or half billion in cash laying around?
Didn't the Ricoh acquisition bring some money into the Pentax picture?
Rick "thinking Ricoh is big in copiers and probably has much a much bigger top line than Nikon" Denney
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rdenney
Didn't the Ricoh acquisition bring some money into the Pentax picture?
Rick "thinking Ricoh is big in copiers and probably has much a much bigger top line than Nikon" Denney
Is Pentax a public company? I can't find it to see what they are worth.
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Sal Santamaura
Current 8x10 320TXP status:
Glazer's - still 3 boxes
Adorama - still out-of-stock
B&H - down to 18 boxes
Badger - still 50 boxes
I suspect when B&H runs out and its free shipping offer is no longer a draw, Jeff will begin to see his stock move quickly.
Sal, what are you (and your crystal ball) going to do with all your spare time once TXP is gone?
GO OUT AND SHOOT!
I'm at work with nothing to do, that's my excuse.
Re: More Kodak discontinuations
I believe Nikon is owned by Mitsubishi a much larger corporation than Ricoh.
The Ricoh homepage has some info including capitalization http://www.ricoh.com/about/company/data/
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MDR
Ok so like I said then they don't really have the money. They are 1.75 billion USD total capitalization. Kodak was originally hoping to get 2-3 billion for the patents. Though if they ever sell.
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If a company goes bust, who will enforce its patents?
Why buy them?
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dsphotog
If a company goes bust, who will enforce its patents?
Why buy them?
It won't go bust to that extent. It will exist as a holding company merely to collect license fees, if nothing else. There are lots of companies that exist solely to collect on the IP of what they used to produce.
Even in a Chapter 7 liquidation, the IP is part of assets that will be liquidated. Somebody will buy it. They may not have to pay very much for it, though.
Rick "not previously aware that Mitsubishi owned Nikon" Denney
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You can have some interesting partners prop up your company to enforce patents. None of it is beneficial to the patent holder's customers. It just keeps the name on life support for a while.
Microsoft-connected funds propped up SCO (a dead software company having patents allegedly used in linux) which sued random deep pocket linux end-user customers. The propped up company then just becomes a disposable pawn in silly patent lawsuits, which created FUD news meant to sway technology choices.
The MS connected funds in this case likely did it to reduce competition for Microsoft. Microsoft wouldn't have been allowed to do it because of anti-trust issues.
IBM bought up a bunch of tech patents from failed dotcom companies to avoid such fighting in the future as IBM is heavy on opensource and was a big target for similar lawsuits.
In other words, if Kodak exists just for patents, things could get ugly and film would be an afterthought. Better hope the sell or spin off the film biz.